France urges Trump not to move U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem

Washington Post ^ | 01/15/2017 | By Carol Morello and William Booth

[SeekAndFind]

PARIS — Diplomats from more than 70 countries called Sunday for the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state and urged Israel and Palestinians to restart direct negotiations.

In their joint declaration at the conclusion of a Mideast conference here, the envoys urged Israel and the Palestinians to restate their commitment to the goal of two states living side by side in peace and security.

The representatives, including Secretary of State John F. Kerry, also warned that continued acts of violence and the building of Jewish settlements in the West Bank needed to stop.

The two-page closing statement was meant to send a message from Europe and the Arab states to the incoming Trump administration that the international community wants to keep hope alive for a two-state solution to the long-running conflict.

The joint declaration urged both sides to “disassociate from voices” that reject this. Israel’s current coalition government is filled with ministers who have openly rejected the two-state solution, including some leaders who want to annex 60 percent of the West Bank.

Neither Israel nor the Palestinians attened the conference. Palestinians welcomed the meeting, while Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the gathering “rigged” against Israel and “futile.”

Netanyahu instead said that the delegates to the Paris meeting should press Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to return to the negotiating table.

France’s foreign minister kicked off the conference Sunday by warning that moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem would have “extremely serious consequences” for the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians.

Characterizing it as a provocation, Jean-Marc Ayrault said he doubted President-elect Donald Trump would in the end actually fulfill his pledge to relocate the embassy in a city that Israelis have named as their capital and Palestinians desire a part of

[ZULU]

Kerry is such a jerk. He should move to Palestine himself.

[M Kehoe]

Just a quick review...

Jerusalem is mentioned in the Old and New Testaments about 950 times. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Qur’an ONCE (al Quds).

People must not read their Bible.

5.56mm

[Eleutheria5]

“France can keep theirs in Tel Aviv. Even shut it.”

B-but, monsieur. We are in ze middle of ze important negotiations! We are trying ze new idea zat nobody has ever sought of before! Just wait until you hear ze new idea! We are going to ‘ave Israel...give ze Arabs some more land, lots more land, and ze Arabs zey make ze piece! Hon Hon! S’et magnifique, non!

Yup. Shut it. At this point what difference does it make?

[rmlew]

Jewish people trend heavily toward socialism and French people trend equally heavy toward idiotism.

Except that French Jews have generally supported the UMP/Republicans over the Socialists and an increasing number are supporting the National Front

[rmlew]

The Socialist Government of France was elected by a margin of the Muslim vote. At the victory rallies there were Palestinian flags. All else follows accordingly.

[rmlew]

So in your world, there was no division of Palestine in 1920,1922, and 1923, Transjordan was created as a Jew-Free Arab Nation, and the Golan Heights were given to French Syria?

[rmlew]

How can Jerusalem be the capital of Israel, and how can the U.S. recognize it as such, if both countries are signatories to the Israel/Palestinian agreements in the 1990s in which it was agreed that the legal status of Jerusalem was subject to future negotiations between the two sides?
Because The agreement was about East Jerusalem, whereas the new city of West Jerusalem is in land that Israel held in 1948

[Alberta's Child]

I believe your statement is factually incorrect, but I’d be interested to see if you have any evidence to support it. As far as I know, the official U.S. diplomatic position on Jerusalem is that its formal status hasn’t changed since the 1947 U.N. plan for the partition of Palestine, subject to ongoing and future negotiations among the parties.

[Alberta's Child]

I’m not denying any of that. I’m simply using that as the baseline for this discussion because it was the most recent scenario where one “owner” (Great Britain) formally ceded control of the area to one or more others.

[rmlew]

I believe your statement is factually incorrect, but I’d be interested to see if you have any evidence to support it. As far as I know, the official U.S. diplomatic position on Jerusalem is that its formal status hasn’t changed since the 1947 U.N. plan for the partition of Palestine, subject to ongoing and future negotiations among the parties.
I don't deny that the Aramco-owned State Department has this position. It doesn't change the fact that West Jerusalem has been Israeli since 1948 or that the Arabs killed the 1947 deal.

[Alberta's Child]

Oh, OK.

Is there really any difference between an Aramco-owned State Department and an AIPAC-owned Congress?

[hal ogen]

I “urge” france to take care of the moozlums who are murdering their citizens, burning thousands of cars each year and raping their women and young boys.

[rmlew]

AIPAC is owned by the Democrat Party and spent the last 6 months rewarding the Democrats who voted for the Iran deal

[garjog]

France tells us not to move our embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Well I guess that settles it then.