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Donald Trump can’t make the (serious but unverified) Russia scandal go away
PMSNBC ^ | 2017-01-13 | Steve Benen

Posted on 01/13/2017 2:37:52 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

The scandal surrounding Russia’s intervention in the U.S. presidential election has, broadly speaking, come in three phases.

The first broke during the campaign itself. Around the time Donald Trump publicly urged Russia to commit illegal acts of cyber-espionage to help his candidacy, multiple reports came to light suggesting Russian officials were, in fact, trying to boost the Republican. Trump, when he wasn’t praising Putin, dismissed the allegations, and much of the political world focused instead on Hillary Clinton’s email server protocols.

The second phase unfolded soon after Election Day, when 17 U.S. intelligence agencies reached a consensus: Russia did launch an espionage operation; officials working at Putin’s behest did subvert our democracy; and Russia was motivated in part by a desire to help put Trump in the White House.

As recently as a month ago, the president elect rejected the findings as “ridiculous.” As recently as a few days ago, however, practically everyone in Trump World now accepts the U.S. intelligence consensus.

If we stopped here and went no further, we’d still have one of the most important campaign stories in American history. It’s an almost unimaginable crime: a foreign adversary provided clandestine assistance to a presidential candidate, creating a dynamic in which the next leader of the free world managed to reach the office thanks in part to foreign espionage.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 4chan; donaldtrump; fakeintel; fakenews; fakereport; internethoax; mediapropaganda; msnbc; trump
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How exactly does one “prove” a negative? Hate to sound Sharia and all, but the penalty for putting the American people, most of whom never studied logic or logical fallacies, through this ought to be death by live incineration in the nearest public square. Anybody got a gas can and a match?


21 posted on 01/13/2017 2:56:17 PM PST by katana
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To: Inyo-Mono

Steve Benen is a pathetic Soros operative.

The rabid lefties love him and his continuous Soros crap.


22 posted on 01/13/2017 2:56:45 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“... It’s an almost unimaginable crime: a foreign adversary provided clandestine assistance to a presidential candidate...”

Saudia Arabia bankrolling $500 million of the Hillary Clinton campaign also counts as assistance to a presidential candidate. But I don’t see this buffoon complaining about that.


23 posted on 01/13/2017 2:58:26 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Sam Gamgee

What do you think?


24 posted on 01/13/2017 3:00:20 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

So the first question is what is our appropriate response to that in regards to Russia?


Get better security on their computers, otherwise, nothing!

Nations spy on each other. That is nothing new. You do not go to war because you discover they were spying.

As far as a foreign nation interfering with our elections, they should not, but then neither should we.


25 posted on 01/13/2017 3:01:47 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
4 channel was/is trolling for the mediots, ABCNNBCBS, CIA, NSA, Rats, Intel Idiots, McAnal and the Never Trumpsters on FR and around America. There was never any legit intel involved. It was fake news/a con game. To damage Trump! It was/is still fake news/a con game/trolling!


26 posted on 01/13/2017 3:02:12 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The deadliest Islamic terror cell America has ever faced is leaving office, 20 Jan 2017!)
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To: DarthVader

“They will be destroyed if they continue down this path.”

This is our century’s Zimmerman telegram. The possibility of breaking the enemy’s power does exist.

But first we are going to have to fight them for the streets. If they are allowed to APPEAR powerful then they will be (classic Alinsky). Either at the inauguration, or shortly after, they are going to have to get a real beat down, I mean blood in the gutters, or things will get out of control.


27 posted on 01/13/2017 3:04:37 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

More fake news.

It’s fun watching the state controlled media twist in the wind.

Next up, Donald Trump is a space alien. Film at 11.

5.56mm


28 posted on 01/13/2017 3:05:08 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

...And frankly why should he. I am sick of the talking heads on fbn and faux news “getting a kick out” of DHT’s tweets on these hacks and fake news. It is insulting beyond, ignorant toward his family and I’d be interested to see first hand how any of these clowns would handle attack after attack after PERSONAL attack on their characters and frankly on the future presidency (if any of these losers ever ran and won)...which of course would NEVER happen. These twits couldn’t run for dog catcher. Keep calling them President elect Trump.


29 posted on 01/13/2017 3:08:10 PM PST by connyankee (#MAGABEGINS)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Let's say Trump is a micturophile (likes to see people peeing on each other.) Let's say he snores. And picks his nose. And probably picks his teeth in public.

WHO CARES!!!!!?????

He was elected to be PRESIDENT, not Pope!

"But these kinds of fetishes and perversions reflect on his character."

Really? So what did Bill Clinton's dalliances reflect on, his boyish charm? His attention to duty? His love for his [shudder] wife?

We're supposed to believe that all of sudden, LIBERALS care about character???

30 posted on 01/13/2017 3:15:41 PM PST by IronJack
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The ‘fake news’ outlets sure think a lot of themselves, don’t they...

President Trump can and probably will tweet something out, and this ‘fake news’ story will be gone like everything else they ‘thought’ they had on him...

I can’t wait until we get some people in there that start ‘leaking’ just what people did and with who and why and where...now there is the ‘great news’ of a lifetime!!!


31 posted on 01/13/2017 3:20:59 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Jim Noble

Been working on something for 8 years for times such as these. The mob has no chance against it.


32 posted on 01/13/2017 3:23:02 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: Sam Gamgee

The only thing apparent to me among all this fake news is that it does appear, as Trump concedes, that Russia did hack the DNC.


Not really.. he accepted the assessment from the intelligence agencies an this time

however I would say with this new issue as a guide to the true quality of the intelligence agencies work and motivations for coming to conclusions

He may want to reconsider his acceptance of that assessment from the intelligence agencies...

Remember intelligences is opinion based on evidence...and is subject to change based on new evidence and also on discovery of bias, ulterior motive and hidden agenda of the agents or agencies involved in making the assessment


33 posted on 01/13/2017 3:23:49 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The NBC that continues creating #FAKENEWS also created the following #FAKENEWS

NBC is #FAKENEWS

“The News vs. The Newsroom: Yes, NBC Did Alter George Zimmerman’s 911 Call”

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/08/the-news-vs-i-the-newsroom-i-yes-nbc-did-alter-george-zimmermans-911-call/278566/

(Just a reminder of what we are dealing with here.)


34 posted on 01/13/2017 3:30:15 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A decade ago I worked at one of the “17 Intelligence agencies”, the Marine Corps Intelligence Agency (MCIA). Even after eight years of Obama, I can’t imagine that this is something that they would investigate, let alone offer an assessment.


35 posted on 01/13/2017 3:41:13 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

...days in and major claims in the data dump are still verified false, and no verification has been found for anything else in it.

Trump still can’t outrun it.

Washington Post, day(?)

Washington’s Comedy Central in print


36 posted on 01/13/2017 3:46:15 PM PST by DoughtyOne (John McStain. The friend of those who hate our nation.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Around the time Donald Trump publicly urged Russia to commit illegal acts of cyber-espionage to help his candidacy,

That is a LIE.

37 posted on 01/13/2017 3:47:05 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why make it go away? Trump is not hurt by this hit job.

It is those who are responsible for it that will pay the price, not Trump.
Trump’s FBI and CIA must get to the bottom of this despicable act.
Americans must know the true facts about all involved.

And they must be punished. Including any British involvement.


38 posted on 01/13/2017 3:54:08 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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Well, Comcast customers can make their subscriptions go away.

The MSM is the Country’s greatest threat.


39 posted on 01/13/2017 3:55:38 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
From the article:

We also now know the author of the information in the dossier: Christopher Steele, a former British officer with MI6, prepared the materials. This week, the New York Times reported, Steele went “underground,” effectively disappearing from public view.

Gone underground...

...or doesn't exist?

40 posted on 01/13/2017 4:07:07 PM PST by Magnatron
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