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House votes to begin Obamacare repeal process
Washington Post ^ | Jan. 13, 2017 | Mike DeBonis

Posted on 01/13/2017 2:32:27 PM PST by Innovative

Congress took its first step toward rolling back President Obama’s health care reform law Friday, with the House voting along party lines to pass key preliminary legislation.

The measure, which was passed Thursday by the Senate, will allow Republicans to use special budget procedures to repeal major parts of the Affordable Care Act without cooperation from Democrats.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; obamacare; obamacarerepeal; trump
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Excellent!

Get it done the sooner the better.

1 posted on 01/13/2017 2:32:27 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Just saying.

Trump has, for as long as I remember, said “repeal, and replace”.

Repeal, and replace.

Don’t forget that second part of that.


2 posted on 01/13/2017 2:34:33 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

First and most importantly it needs to be repealed ASAP. Then there is plenty of time to forge something different. The “repeal, replace: mantra is just a Dem trick to stop it, because there would be a lot of discussion about the replacement and that would stop the repeal. Just repeal the monstrosity and go back to private insurance that people used to have. Then later, if someone has some good ideas, they can be evaluated and acted upon, if they make sense.

Repeal, repeal, repeal, do NOT get sidetracked with the “repeal, replace” slogan.


3 posted on 01/13/2017 2:40:47 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

I don’t know.

The GOP for a lot of years, did nothing about our healthcare system.

Nothing. Millions of Americas were not covered, and it just sat there.

Obamacare covered them. The GOP by itself, is NOT intent on fixing Obamacare.

THEY ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Repeal, and REPLACE Obamacare.


4 posted on 01/13/2017 2:43:45 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Nope, repeal and get government further out of healthcare. Coverage of pre-existing conditions is NOT insurance. (That is what state “high risk pools” were for). Age 26 requirement is absurd. Minimum plan coverages are crazy (i.e. pregnancy coverage for men and birth control for 60 y/o women). No subsidies (Medicaid was for poverty stricken people that were unable to work).


5 posted on 01/13/2017 2:50:08 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago

Nope.

Repeal and replace.

The GOP is just as part of the problem, as Dems.

Except Trump, that is. He is too big to buy off. Everyone else is sold out.

Obamacare was a problem, but it addressed a real issue. Our healthcare is too expensive, and does not cover people who really need it.

Repeal, and REPLACE.


6 posted on 01/13/2017 2:52:25 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Get government out and healthcare costs and premiums drop at least 50-60%...making it affordable for everyone. Average govt. reimbursement of charges is 15-20% so healthcare costs may drop even more than 60%! Unconstitutional meddling by the Feds.


7 posted on 01/13/2017 3:10:54 PM PST by Drago
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To: Innovative

Ordinarily, this would have been very difficult, which the Democrats were relying on. However, one person, Chief Justice Roberts, has made it remarkably (relatively speaking) easy.

For all those conservatives who damned Roberts for supporting Obamacare when he would have lost if he opposed it, then inserting a “poison pill” into the SCOTUS decision, what we are witnessing right now is the effect of that poison pill.

Had Chief Justice Roberts voted against Obamacare, the liberals would have won, and made Obamacare impossible to repeal.


8 posted on 01/13/2017 3:16:40 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: Drago
Get government out and healthcare costs and premiums drop at least 50-60%...making it affordable for everyone.

There are 55M Americans on Medicare. What's your plan for them?

9 posted on 01/13/2017 3:18:01 PM PST by semimojo
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To: Innovative; All

Part of the “Replace” would be opening up being able to greater deductions of medical expenses, contributions to medical/health savings accounts, tort reform, shopping insurance across state lines and other individual incentives.


10 posted on 01/13/2017 3:25:59 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

yefra.....was that calling it a tax? If the pubbies are successful then Roberts deserves an apology. What say you?


11 posted on 01/13/2017 3:39:44 PM PST by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 87)
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To: cba123
Repeal, and REPLACE.

Why? You want a government plan which covers everyone? You have Obamacare.

12 posted on 01/13/2017 3:54:33 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: semimojo

An irrelevant nonsequiter, since repealing Obamacare would restore things to where they were. Obamacare sucked the money out of Medicare and with repeal those funds would return - sans all the added administrative waste.

Since you didn’t pay any attention to the inner workings of Obamacare when it was passed (and obviously haven’t studied the plan in the interim) why are you acting as if it’s some sort of tragedy that people wish the whole toilet full of turds to be flushed?


13 posted on 01/13/2017 4:06:59 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: semimojo

Phase it out...new workers coming into the workforce don’t have to contribute, and won’t receive Medicare at retirement.


14 posted on 01/13/2017 4:16:45 PM PST by Drago
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To: Innovative; All
The problem that I have with Congress “repealing” unconstitutional Obamacare is this. Repealing Obamacare is arguably a way to sidestep the fact that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend in the name of INTRAstate healthcare purposes. This is evidenced by the following excerpts from historical Supreme Court case opinions which lawless Obama’s state sovereignty-ignoring justices seemingly ignored when they decided Obamacare in Congress’s favor.

Patriots need to support Trump to either work Trumpcare within Congress’s limited Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), basically letting the states run their own healthcare programs.

"The States should be left to do whatever acts they can do as well as the General Government." --Thomas Jefferson to John Harvie, 1790.

Or if the feds require new constitutional powers for Trumpcare, to work with the states and the feds to ratify a Trumpcare amendment to the Constitution.

15 posted on 01/13/2017 4:18:25 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Innovative
Repeal now.

Replace by and by . . . after the budget is balanced . . . after the national debt is paid off.

16 posted on 01/13/2017 4:26:26 PM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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To: MrEdd
An irrelevant nonsequiter, since repealing Obamacare would restore things to where they were.

The poster said to get government out of healthcare.

It may be news to you but Medicare is a government program.

17 posted on 01/13/2017 7:04:13 PM PST by semimojo
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To: Drago
Phase it out...new workers coming into the workforce don’t have to contribute, and won’t receive Medicare at retirement.

Sounds good. Now find a majority of our elected representatives to vote for this when they know their constituents will annihilate them at the polls if they do.

18 posted on 01/13/2017 7:12:56 PM PST by semimojo
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Medicare is part of a plan that workers paid for during their working life. Medicaid is for the indigent. Obamacare was for those who couldn’t pay for healthcare. Amazing number of whom couldn’t be bothered to apply because many of them too busy. Point is even if it is free many cannot be bothered unless it is spoon fed to them. Just another large pot of tax money the pols could piss away cause they have already pissed away all the other tax boondoggles.


19 posted on 01/13/2017 7:19:15 PM PST by HARRY TUTTLE (Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less. R. E. Lee)
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To: semimojo

It is.
But you asked what would happen to medicare patients, and the correct answer is that that program would have more money.


20 posted on 01/13/2017 7:26:00 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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