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To: varyouga

“WE’VE” had Medicaid/Medicare since 1965?

No, the U.S. had it since 1965. It is not socialized medicine... that is what single payer ala Canada is. Further, it was not the beginning of modern medicine.

You are no different than the dude from Vietnam that has been on FR touting Obamacare and this liberal do-gooder attitude that foreigners have when coming over here. If the U.S. was such a rotten country you would not have come here from the Ukraine. If our system here is so “broken” head back where your ancestors are now fighting Putin’s henchmen. Heck, you would not even have the opportunity to talk about it like you are right now.

The fact is there are no more people being covered now under Obamacare than there were before. Nobody has a right to someone else’s money for ANY government program- whether it be health care, social security, or food stamps. Don’t hand me your moral reasons about the guy doing double shifts, blah, blah, blah... save it for some other site like Dem Underground.

Enjoy the next four to eight years. You are about to get a lesson in true conservatism and American exceptionalism.


89 posted on 01/15/2017 11:15:13 AM PST by Navin Johnson
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To: Navin Johnson

Ok. If you take away medicare and medicaid from the poor, WHAT is your plan for them?

Medicine is different from basically EVERY other service because if you dont get it you will get sick, get others sick and we will ALL eventually die (unless you remove the sick and dying by force).

Our only other option then is to kill them. If not that, then WHAT is your plan?

“Enjoy the next four to eight years. You are about to get a lesson in true conservatism and American exceptionalism.”

I am looking forward to it. But there is no getting around needing to keep our populating from being diseased. Even the dumb, lazy and crazy. It’s nature and the free market does not automatically address that issue


90 posted on 01/15/2017 11:48:15 AM PST by varyouga
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To: Navin Johnson

“Enjoy the next four to eight years. You are about to get a lesson in true conservatism”

Except Donald Trump doesn’t share your sadistic delusions.


92 posted on 01/15/2017 12:32:13 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Navin Johnson

And you cant deny the market system is broken when we have people doing needed jobs 60+ hours a week and can’t afford basic food and shelter.

Someone has to do these jobs and they should not be lacking basic life necessities for doing them.

Guaranteed minimum income is coming due to how many jobs will be lost from intelligent machines. Either that or you put people that cant survive the market into camps


93 posted on 01/15/2017 12:35:11 PM PST by varyouga
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