Posted on 01/13/2017 12:00:44 PM PST by JeepersFreepers
You really don’t understand the concept of insurance, do you?
You probably believe people shouldn’t have to buy car insurance until after they have an accident and the insurance should be retroactive.
The Wall Street Journal is so on top of this.
During the melt down of Obamacare, not so much!
That table will interest you.
“Totally correct. Nobody is entitled to health care, no matter what these libs think”
So then what is the plan for penniless/mentally ill/disabled people with acute illnesses?
Arrest them while they are suffering and begging for help at a hospital and toss them into a cage to die? Have euthanization vans patrol the streets? Have a trial to determine if them being broke is their “own damn fault” and sentence them to swift death? Implant a chip in them so hospital doors slam in their face?
WHAT exactly would you do that doesn’t drag America down to the level of garbage like the Nazis and North Korea?
I dont think there is any civilized Christian option but paying for most of them. We aren’t bloody savages
I got written up by a patient who was morbidly obese. I encouraged her to walk more, and that would help her lose weight. She wrote a complaint against me. I didnt even mention the word “fat”. I just told her that walking more would help her lose weight. She is probably dead by now, 500 lbs of fat.
Dr. Sowell knows better than this, but he also understands that the discussion has to start somewhere.
The rub comes when I'm not willing to be billed by doctors for someone else's care. The Feds don't need my permission.
And I wanted to also note we ALREADY pay for them. When they come to the ER and use tens of thousands of dollars in resources for something that would have cost hundreds to treat at a doctor.
Doctors are civilized and cannot turn away sick people by oath. As long as ERs exist, we will be overpaying for all these sick poor people
ERs are getting abused by the newly minted Obamacare recipients. We are in the middle of flu season, and the ERs are getting bombarded. Most people with the flu stay home and rest, because they know they have to pay a copay. The Obamacare patients dont have to pay, overwhelming the ER. I have never seen anything like this, and I suspect they are using their free insurance to go to the ER, when in previous years they stayed home.
EMTALA was a mistake, because ERs cannot turn people away with minor symptoms. They have to treat them all.
Oh wow...”We’re better than that!” alert.
Here’s a better question...What do YOU intend to do?
limit with all the Welfare and other transfer payments that I support.
My husband had a motorcyle accident before we met.
They told him, if you did not have a job, we could help you but you work.
The bill collectors called while he was still healing(1 year recovery)which hurt too!
But he paid it all, for what insurance did not cover.
Silly us workers.
Exactly! It’s easy to have a cold, business like attitude until you have a family member with one of those awful conditions! Contrary to what many people seem to believe, there are a large number of conditions that people are born with. These are not conditions due to lifestyle choices, or parents lifestyle choices. They can be devestating and lifelong. Sadly, with some of these conditions, people honestly can not work, or work enough to pay for the extremely expensive medical coverage they need.
If, as a nation, we don’t care for the weakest members, we are no better than Nazi Germany.
GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF HEALTH CARE
THERE IS *NO* SOLUTION
ESPECIALLY ANY SOLUTION THE GOVERNMENT IS INVOLVED IN
200 years ago if someone had a big illness they got sicker and died in their homes, in the care of family.
We are likely going to have to turn back to that option for most who cannot pay. Government is not a machine strong enough to carry that load, and is not constitutionally charged to do so.
Thank you for your perspective. Your remarks are very telling. You are correct that hospitals put a huge emphasis on giving “care” that will win “excellent” ratings on the patient feedback surveys.
Also, from my own limited experience and observation, many are pressured to “up sell” for more and more treatments and tests (sore back = referral to spine surgeon; slow adjustment to new glasses prescription = referral to ophthalmologist surgeon; bad heartburn one episode only = referral for battery of GI tests.... and so on). I realize some of this is due to fears of malpractice accusations and lawsuits, but also I think some of it is to keep people trapped in a long-term diagnosis and treatment program, which may be really unnecessary.
Just my thoughts.
We’re all martyrs now.
I have ‘insurance’ with which I cannot afford to get sick.
During a Town Hall Meeting, Hillary Clinton told the woman in my same situation, to ‘keep shopping’. Doesn’t work!
so you believe it’s civilized to send armed men to rob me ( involuntary taxation ) to pay for someone free health care ?
get the gov’t out of health care and you’love see price drop to 1/4 of today’s
When I came to America, I did assume we were better than what.
I would choose the only civilized option: pay for sick poor people to not suffer for treatable conditions.
It doesn’t have to be by taxation. We already have charities that pay for disabled children and physically ill people. We have multi-generation mentally ill poor people that are equally in need of help but most dont see it that way.
Or do you intend to do like the Nazis? Label as “useless eaters” and kill all the disabled? How efficient and profitable!
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