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US may hold fire on 'non-threatening' N Korea missiles
BBC ^ | 11 January 2017

Posted on 01/10/2017 11:09:44 PM PST by BenLurkin

Mr Carter said on Tuesday in his final press briefing that if a North Korean long-range missile is ever deemed to be threatening, "it will be intercepted".

"If it's not threatening, we won't necessarily do so. Because it may be more to our advantage to, first of all, save our interceptor inventory, and, second, to gather intelligence from the flight."

Mr Carter is due to step down as Pentagon chief when President Barack Obama's administration ends on 20 January.

But the top US military officer, Marine General Joseph Dunford, who will remain as Mr Trump's top uniformed military advisor and was at the event, agreed with Mr Carter.

On Sunday, North Korean state news agency KCNA quoted a foreign ministry spokesman as saying that a missile "will be launched anytime and anywhere" as determined by Pyongyang, despite efforts by the US to contain them.

North Korea has conducted two nuclear tests over the last year - five in total - raising fears that it has made significant nuclear advances.

It has never successfully test-fired long-range missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads, but experts estimate it may be able to do so within five years

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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1 posted on 01/10/2017 11:09:44 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
If it's not threatening, we won't necessarily do so.

This kind of stupid statement only invites more contempt from N. Korea. Don't say a word unless you draw a clear red-line and are willing to back it up with real action.

2 posted on 01/10/2017 11:19:28 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: BenLurkin
Clearly, if a warhead or missile component is going to impact on US territory or our ally's territory we should intercept it and destroy it. After all, what is missile defense if you're not going to use it?

That scenario is pretty clear cut. The more interesting scenario is what if the missile will impact harmlessly in the ocean well off shore, but it will be on a flight path where we could intercept it. Should we? Reasons for intercepting it anyway include: making a political/military point, and not just to NK. Also, it would represent a great real-world test of our systems, relatively cheaply. Those target missiles and range safety setups etc probably cost millions. If NK supplies the target, big savings for us. Intercepting would also deny them telemetry and data from the final portions of the flight.

However, there are some good reasons not to, if we don't have to. Interceptors aren't cheap. They are also a finite resource with a fairly long lead time to replace. If we intercept, we also deny ourselves the opportunity to learn more about their missile technology in mid course and terminal phases. If we launch, we give our adversaries, not just NK, a chance to observe and learn more about our capabilities. A successful intercept shows them even more. An unsuccessful attempt reduces confidence in the system, and may also embolden our enemies.

3 posted on 01/11/2017 12:01:59 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: BenLurkin

If they launch by Jan. 19 against Israel that would be considered non-threatening?


4 posted on 01/11/2017 12:29:48 AM PST by teacherwoes (Indoctrination is often done under the shadow of a gun)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The idiot making the statements no longer has any impact on such things and has exactly nothing credible to say on how things may or may not be dealt with once Trump is inaugurated.

Carter is an idiot appointed by a scumbag. That should be kept in mind when reading on what he says about anything.


5 posted on 01/11/2017 12:33:09 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I don’t understand why we’re not knocking every single one of their missiles right off the launch pad, sending the unambiguous message: Don’t even think about it.


6 posted on 01/11/2017 1:51:14 AM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Plus it is unknown if NK has the guidance to hit a target or even have a sucessful reentry.


7 posted on 01/11/2017 2:46:33 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: BenLurkin

Save our inventory?!?! Are they talking about the ones based in Alaska or Standard Missiles on a ship? If either are true, I’d say we better freaking up the inventory.


8 posted on 01/11/2017 3:04:52 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: BenLurkin

Launch pads are stationary and blow up real nice. Rocket factories make great smoldering craters. Bomb making facilities don’t move around either

When do we FINALLY end this whole North Korea bullsh*t?


9 posted on 01/11/2017 3:24:57 AM PST by Spruce
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To: TigerLikesRooster

As a practical matter that is the correct answer. US anti-missile platforms will not always be in the correct position for an intercept. The tracking software will quickly arrive at an impact area. And why would you want to ‘waste’ an expensive interceptor missile to take out a low-tech, cheap ballistic missile if you determined that it was going to land in some empty expanse of the North Pacific?


10 posted on 01/11/2017 3:35:36 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Spruce

North Korea is still at war with the UN, technically. Their cease-fire violations are testing the limits of “the Peace” - if you can call it that. But it is assumed that the Chinese have NK’s back, and the American-public will be quick to blame our side if we fire first unless there are lengthy political preparations on our side.

The US did prepare the ground for Operation Iraqi Freedom based upon Saddam’s numerous cease fire violations. But a year later the Media twisted that resolution into “it was all about WMD’s” and a presidency was crippled. And of course this all resulted in the election of Barak Obama.


11 posted on 01/11/2017 3:42:12 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: ThunderSleeps

If you intercept it don’t announce it. Leave them guessing....


12 posted on 01/11/2017 3:49:54 AM PST by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: Tallguy
I think the best course of action has been just stating the established policy. Not trying to make huge publicity over vowing to shoot it down. That is where everything went wrong.

Why can't he just utter a simple sentence, "If it is going to hit U.S. territory, it will be shot down," in a matter-of-fact fashion, without any qualification attached to it? This whole thing smacks of publicity stunt gone bad. So typical of Obama Admin..

13 posted on 01/11/2017 3:51:40 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: Kozak
We are not in a courtroom. This is supposed to be a political message to be delivered to N. Koreans in the hope of deterring them. On the contrary, this sounds like it is intended for domestic audience, and not particularly an effective one.
14 posted on 01/11/2017 4:03:19 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: BenLurkin
..."first of all, save our interceptor inventory, and, second, to gather intelligence..."

That would be good -- there's a lot of it missing from the Pentagon these days...

Ash could put some of his best and brightest LGBT specialists on it!

15 posted on 01/11/2017 4:23:59 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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To: Tallguy

“The tracking software will quickly arrive at an impact area”.

There’s not much to track in the early launch phase, when it’s easiest to take out...so I’m not cool with giving the Norks the benefit of the doubt.

“And why would you want to ‘waste’ an expensive interceptor missile to take out a low-tech, cheap ballistic missile if you determined that it was going to land in some empty expanse of the North Pacific?”

It’s not cheap, even for the Norks, to build a missile that makes it 1000 miles. As to why, I’d rather not give them the benefit of a completed test, as that’s how they further develop their capabilities.


16 posted on 01/11/2017 5:24:40 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Completely agree. The way the outgoing administration phrased the statement gIves the wrong impression to Low Information Voters (would they do that? LOL), not to mention allies & adversaries.


17 posted on 01/11/2017 5:26:36 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Kozak
My reply above is supposed to be directed to somebody else. Sorry for the mix-up.
18 posted on 01/11/2017 6:03:34 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In a few hours...? http://morungexpress.com/north-korea-may-readying-missile-test-timing-unclear-u-s-officials/


19 posted on 01/19/2017 9:58:49 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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I am not sure. If this is a new type of missile as they suggested in the article, it may not be up for a test flight yet. If they launch it and it crashes, that would not send a message they want.
20 posted on 01/20/2017 1:50:50 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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