[Romulus]

We have it from the Lord himself that heaven rejoices when a sinner is converted. When I see those preparing the celebrate a sinner’s damnation, I can’t help wondering whose team they’re on.

[HerrBlucher]

Well said.

[righttackle44]

We have it from the Lord himself that heaven rejoices when a sinner is converted.

We also have it from the Lord Himself that one who has committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is without redemption. I have never seen anything in the life of Charles Manson that indicates the Holy Spirit has continued to call upon Charles Manson. Do I know what Manson goes through in the hours of his life when he is alone? The answer is obvious. Of course I don't.

But we do know that Manson is a false prophet. His followers have said that he used to spend hours on end speaking his own horrid and evil vision of what good and bad is, and how that connects, in his version, to the end times.

This is what Jesus said of false prophets: “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits.

I don't think that we have any reason to believe, based on the fruits of Charles Manson's life, that he can or will be welcomed in heaven, or that the angels have rejoiced because of Manson's conversion.

[NorthMountain]

Matthew 5:

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

[laplata]

Very good points. I have to agree.