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A Surprising Number of Democrats Think Pizzagate Is True
NY Magazine ^

Posted on 12/28/2016 6:33:35 PM PST by TigerClaws

Nearly half of the nation’s Republicans believe John Podesta’s leaked emails contain coded messages referring to “pedophilia, human trafficking and satanic ritual abuse,” according to a new poll from The Economist and YouGov. But more shocking is the number of Dems who have signed on to the asinine conspiracy: Twenty four percent say Pizzagate is “definitely” or “probably” true.

The poll asked respondents to weigh in on a series of questions labeled “conspiracy theories,” including some classics (Was 9/11 an inside job?) and some of the tinfoil crowd’s more recent hits (Did millions of undocumented people vote in the election?). Answers broke down largely along party lines, but it’s the small percentage of weirdos who believe in the conspiracies aimed at their own side that’s always the most fascinating.

For example, it’s not shocking to learn that more than half of Republicans think President Obama was born in Kenya, which was throughly debunked years ago. But it is shocking to learn that 20 percent of Democrats think so, too. On the other side, it’s easy to believe that a full 50 percent of Clinton voters think Russia “tampered with vote tallies” to help elect Trump, despite a lack of evidence. But why would 9 percent of Trump voters believe the same thing?

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i'm not surprised. many of the same dems thought clinton had the election in the bag

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: msm; pizzagate; podesta
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To: Figment

If Obama was born outside the US then he’s not even a US citizen, unless he naturalized at some point.

But the big issue here is not Obama; it is how the entire system could be so compromised that official agencies forge documents for him while all the watchdogs turn a blind eye. The crimes that put Obama into office need to be exposed, because people need to see what has been done with the “public trust” entrusted to our officials, now that we have NO MEANS to hold them accountable. Our founding fathers said such a situation would GUARANTEE tyranny and corruption. We’re there, and people need to know it so we can unite behind fixing this mess we’re in.


41 posted on 12/28/2016 8:02:36 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: TigerClaws

Look New York Magazine, if more than half of a major party thinks something to be true, then it by definition has not been “thoroughly debunked”.


42 posted on 12/28/2016 8:14:59 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: TigerClaws

It is not, “That’s too crazy to happen!” because it isn’t. “Well, it can’t happen here, though,” is a more appropriate delusion. Belgium has gone through paedophile sex slave and murder scandals that permeated the government twice in the latter half or the 20th century that jailed a number of prominent figures. That sort of thing is institutionalized in some Moslem countries and was normal in civilized Europe before Christianity.


43 posted on 12/28/2016 8:27:41 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: BenLurkin

My belief is NOT that Podesta the Molesta is involved in a pedophile ring but that, if true, the media would lie to cover it up to protect them, which in some ways is worse.

True or not? Can’t be sure. That the media would try to debunk it and make it go away? Definitely true whether it is true or not.


44 posted on 12/28/2016 8:29:03 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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To: lee martell

Democrats think that anything their leaders do is fine and dandy. Once you abandon the root of morality and ethics then you quickly abandon the trunk and all the branches. Powerful people deserve whatever they like. Paedophilia practice is no more daunting than womanizing and any sort of financial corruption for the left’s leaders. The king can do no wrong because the king defines crime and morality as the whim strikes him.


45 posted on 12/28/2016 8:34:59 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: TigerClaws

Pre-Podesta... We all learned about this type of crap.

Kids for Cash:
State of Pennsylvania

And

Sandusky received victims (1977-2011) from:
State of Pennsylvania

On August 11, 2011, Ciavarella was sentenced to 28 years in federal prison as a result of his conviction.[40]

On September 23, 2011, Conahan was sentenced to 17 and a half years in federal prison after pleading guilty to one count of racketeering conspiracy.[44]

On November 4, 2011, Powell was sentenced to 18 months in federal prison after pleading guilty to failing to report a felony and being an accessory to tax conspiracy. On August 10, 2015, a judge approved a $4.75M settlement agreement for Powell, for having paid kickbacks related to the adjudication of at least 2,400 juveniles.[49]

On November 4, 2011, a grand jury[40] that had been convened in September 2009, or earlier,[27] indicted Sandusky on 40 counts of sex crimes against young boys.

*** Here was an example of organized corruption in just one state. What’s that word.... A conspiracy???

Many of you have likely had your lives stolen or destroyed while evil people actively cover up the various crimes. Many are unwilling to type the actions committed against your families. Good people are heading to Washington soon. Your voices will be heard in the next few years.


46 posted on 12/28/2016 8:56:15 PM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: TigerClaws

Because they’re witnesses/donors


47 posted on 12/28/2016 9:02:15 PM PST by t4texas (No koolaid for me. Thanks!)
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To: TigerClaws
"the asinine conspiracy"

From what I've seen on FR, there is not a single version of the "conspiracy," but several versions, and the MSM are highlighting the most improbable version (i.e., Hillary Clinton is personally involved in sex-trafficking of minors) in order to discredit the idea that there is ANYTHING strange going on.
48 posted on 12/28/2016 9:15:03 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: rawcatslyentist

The lies of democrats and perverts are not sticking as well as they once did, because information is no longer filtered through the establishment (complicit) media.

Many psychologists and other professionals are well-aware that pedophilia and incest are FAR MORE PREVALENT than normal people believe. We do not want to believe it, and the pervs are VERY EFFICIENT at burying ALL stories. They even have their own set of “Experts” that pop up to defend and deny without fail.

I think that in time Pizzagate is going to unravel a vast web of despicable practices involving the most vile child abuse and child slave trafficking.

Oh . . . and people like Beck that so violently deny it . . . make me suspicious that it may have been in his family if not to him personally. Sadly, that is often the way it works. People that turn a blind eye in their own lives then become deniers in general, sort of as a psychological mechanism of defense.


49 posted on 12/28/2016 9:31:34 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: TigerClaws

They are certainly speaking in code. Whether that code refers to pedophilia I’m far less certain. I would be interested in hearing a legitimate explanation for the coded phrases. I haven’t heard one yet. I think “handkerchiefs” with “maps” that are “pizza-related” demand an explanation.


50 posted on 12/28/2016 9:51:36 PM PST by American Guesser
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To: OrangeHoof
It's shocking, but here it is: Goes to you tube.

http://tinyurl.com/ha5m6hg

Watch it twice and pay attention. Not fun.

51 posted on 12/28/2016 10:30:47 PM PST by Concentrate (ex-texan was right. And Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election.)
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To: Figment
the courts don’t seem to have a problem with it

Neither did a large number of Freepers.

52 posted on 12/28/2016 11:02:17 PM PST by itsahoot (Three words I don't want to hear, Comprehensive Immigration Reform.)
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To: TigerClaws

#Podestathemolesta - ???


53 posted on 12/28/2016 11:05:21 PM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: lee martell

it’s pareidolia at best


54 posted on 12/28/2016 11:16:37 PM PST by Pelham (the refusal to Deport is defacto Amnesty)
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To: Pelham

Now that I know what that means, yes, this word sounds correct. “The imagined perception of a pattern or meaning where it does not actually exist”.

This is only my opinion. I’m not putting anyone down for having a different view. If I am wrong, then eventually, we will all know it, and I will admit to being wrong.


55 posted on 12/28/2016 11:34:13 PM PST by lee martell
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To: tellw

Okay, so what the heck is that picture supposed to mean?


56 posted on 12/29/2016 12:41:59 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Da Coyote

“And, of course, it’s NOT true.

Why?

Because liberals told us it was not true.”

If just one intrepid reporter would put the question to Podesta about what the heck all the odd references to ‘Pizza” in his emails mean, it would go along way toward easing these theories. Not one has the wit to ask.

I really hate to think the conspiracy is true. It just sickens me that this COULD be going on. It might not be the conspiracy we think, but something is really hinky with all the coded language. Maybe ‘pizza’ means ‘bribes’ or ‘illegal contributions’, but it sure doesn’t mean ‘pizza’.


57 posted on 12/29/2016 1:29:36 AM PST by Stand W ("Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the WAR ROOM!")
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To: wintertime

“Debunked? Hardly!”

I agree. Debunked with what? The FORGED birth certificate?


58 posted on 12/29/2016 1:59:48 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: wintertime

“Debunked? Hardly!”

I agree. Debunked with what? The FORGED birth certificate?


59 posted on 12/29/2016 1:59:57 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: Da Coyote

Thanks for listing their untruths. I was going through them, thinking, “I believe that!”


60 posted on 12/29/2016 2:09:10 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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