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To: EinNYC
Maybe you missed the part of my post that addressed suburban vs. inner city schools. To think the teacher's unions isn't complicit in the failed state of urban public schools requires the total suspension of disbelief.

Teachers don't have to worry about competition and they have little worry about losing their jobs -- unless you also also deny the reality of rubber rooms. Yeah, they have to put up with a lot of crap from their supervisors. So what? Trying to compare what teachers have to deal with (big city, suburbs or rural) to what the private sector has to deal with every day of the week, and weekends, is comical.

My universe is much more common than yours so thank you for marginalizing what a large percentage of parents/taxpayers have to deal with. Your reality is the only reality so please don't let any other circumstances influence your world view in any way.

Perhaps teachers who don't like the system should find more meaningful employment in the private sector? One of the best lines ever came from he first Ghostbusters movie when the professors were about to be fired...."Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities; we didn't have to produce anything. You've never been out of college. I've worked in the private sector. [states fearfully] They expect results."

If you truly have any interest in current Earth realities" that quote provides it.

70 posted on 12/28/2016 12:27:29 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
It sounds to me like you are jealous of your [false] perception of the security of teachers' working conditions and jobs. Apparently your La-la-land suburban school experience is your model. That is perhaps accurate for a tiny percentage of schools.

Everyone's been goggling at the rampaging of teens at malls all over the U.S. THAT is the reality of what's in teachers' classrooms, MUCH more than your idyllic experience. I found myself wondering for an instant "What's the big deal? Why is this rampaging through malls so news worthy?" until I realized most people don't know what it's like to have large groups of out of control kids in one place at one time, and--to boot--organized through social media to meet to do it. Those kids you saw on the videos running mindlessly and destructively through malls, destroying stuff and pushing people just for fun--those are our students. Theirs is the mentality we daily deal with. With that as your raw material, let's see what YOU could do with it. Don't use To Sir With Love or any of those tales as your goal, because there's a 99% chance it ain't gonna happen as you hope. Couple that with a teaching methodology forced upon teachers which has nothing to do with reality, and get back to me.

74 posted on 12/28/2016 1:10:41 PM PST by EinNYC
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