>>Bringing Lyn Ted into any discussion is quick way to kill it. Lets leave him out, okay?<<
Well, the OP is about him so maybe you should just not enter threads about hum if you feel that way.
It is like people jumping onto sports/movie/music threads to profess how much they hate said sport/movie/music.
I am just saying that Lyn’ Ted is a failure, everything he touches ends in failure, and his lying is endless. Beside, he is universally disliked. How is bring him in help on this issue, except to undermine a side? The OP may be playing Lyn’ Ted out there for an agenda of its own. In any case, for more respected and trusted people to look to for opinion and leadership. At the moment, I am waiting and watching to see what Preside Trump says and does. Loser Lyn’ Ted should crawl back under his rock. Good riddance to him.