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Why America's Marines are Turning Their MV-22 Ospreys Into Assault Gunships
Scout Warrior ^ | Dec 22, 2015 | Kris Osborn

Posted on 12/23/2016 5:50:07 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Mashood

I flew C-2A’s in Japan and Coronado. I heard the Osprey is replacing them. Osprey is neat, love the VSTOL... But yellow shirts, Handlers, LSO’s and Air Bosses will surely miss the COD trap, tailhook up, wingfold, and taxi clear of the LA (landing area) in 15 seconds as the next airplane rolls into the groove.

Make that a 20 second exit in case of a taxi one wire. :)

Also... I think saying “ability to reach speeds of 280 knots” is pilot talk for “once.” My T34 in Pensacola had a Vne of 280. But achieving that speed would probably shake about 5 or 10 instrument gauges into your lap, I can’t imagine anyone ever trying. New airplanes probably are a much different experience. I’m a dinosaur, like a lot of readers I would imagine.


21 posted on 12/23/2016 6:35:18 AM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: fso301

Nice B-25G, I believe.


22 posted on 12/23/2016 6:38:24 AM PST by exit82 (Making America Great Again begins with........me.)
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To: KeyLargo

I am no aviation expert and don’t play a pilot on tv anywhere either. But, it seems if we have stuff like the TR3B why not just build more of them and fewer of the stuff that appears pretty easy to shoot down.


23 posted on 12/23/2016 6:39:07 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Dustoff45

My flight school roommate tea bagged a flailing frog (46) over and over in the dark with legs wet with his crew chief illuminating his instruments before he got it 60 feet up onto the flight deck.

You probably know of him. He got an Air Medal for it. I don’t know what the malfunction was. Actually, I don’t really believe they can fly. I think a frog is merely a fictive hologram of some sort.


24 posted on 12/23/2016 6:42:42 AM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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https://www.google.com/search?q=&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CQyUcVbnlztrIjjwO0wbKYrEJRZKGIpk08k5aWEy1JdilA78R1EF2o19-LH_1VjkWVLsj38M_17K5Nh6ij5-hBfwsllSoSCfA7TBspisQlEUiodtdIF40oKhIJFkoYimTTyTkRfRCl_17Mmr8wqEglpYTLUl2KUDhFDy8GpI7W2TSoSCfxHUQXajX34EVTc-LrfJOHmKhIJsf9WORZUuyMRGoDJihIn4x0qEgnfwz_1srk2HqBH_1Z20H6IyjiyoSCaPn6EF_1CyWVEYTbZs5HX60g&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiejPzfxorRAhUEJCYKHQoEBYMQ9C8ICQ&biw=1536&bih=735&dpr=1.25

If this link works heres a few more photos of the
TR3B


25 posted on 12/23/2016 6:46:01 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

And the F4 had?


26 posted on 12/23/2016 6:47:18 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: rodguy911

Triangle rocket planes?

I didn’t know there was such a thing.

The airplanes I flew had ashtrays and smelled like a locker room.


27 posted on 12/23/2016 6:50:09 AM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: Proyecto Anonimo
In tune with this article, the precious part of the CH-46s that I walked through at Marble Mountain DaNang were the Ma Duece .50 cals hanging left and right, where the army gave us M-60s on our chinooks.

I renewed my respect for USMC aviation that day and doubled up. I still go outside to see Echo model 53s when they fly over the house. I live about 40 clicks south of quantico.

28 posted on 12/23/2016 6:50:23 AM PST by Dustoff45 (Where there is smoke, there is someone playing with matches trying to start a fire.)
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To: CCGuy
It will never replace a “loach” (Hughes OH-6) with a bungee cord and an M-60 and the ability to auto-rotate!!....lol

OK..I'm a bit prejudice...I have beau-coup hours in one...wish I knew how to transfer pictures...Ive got some good ones from my Viet Nam days

29 posted on 12/23/2016 6:56:50 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: rodguy911; KeyLargo
What worries me about these types of vehicles is that there are now thousands of former qdaffi manpads,shoulder fired weapons, floating around the mid-east in the hands of who knows whom. My question is how many would it take to shoot down one of these Osprey by a terror type standing under a tree where he can’t be seen?

That is an excellent question. One of the most oustanding qualities of the A-10 was it's survivability. It can take a tremendous amount of punishment and still keep flying. A simple web search will easily show many pics from Iraq and Afghanistan that show A-10's shot almost to pieces that still brought their pilots home safely. I don't believe the Osprey's have anywhere near that kind of toughness.

30 posted on 12/23/2016 6:59:52 AM PST by tarheelswamprat (gh)
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To: 9422WMR
"That thing still has no glide capacity in case of engine failure:-O

I think the auto-gyro effect would still work.

31 posted on 12/23/2016 7:00:02 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Dustoff45

I thought Mel Gibson did a great job along with Greg Kinnear displaying the heroism of Vietnam vets in We Were Soldiers.


32 posted on 12/23/2016 7:00:08 AM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: rodguy911

They are not photos, but artists ‘concepts.’

That TR-3B stuff was debunked years ago. Most of what you wrote was from an article which appeared in 2012 or earlier.


33 posted on 12/23/2016 7:01:24 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Proyecto Anonimo
I thought Mel Gibson did a great job along with Greg Kinnear displaying the heroism of Vietnam vets in We Were Soldiers.

I saw it twice in local theatre. I took my son the second time to tell him the movie showed what I could not explain to him.

The best part was that last boot leaving the ground. I served with Army majors on their 2nd tour flying dustoff. Many still had the scars from the crashes they survived their first tours.

We had to learn very fast, how to get it done and survive to get it done again tomorrow.

34 posted on 12/23/2016 7:07:32 AM PST by Dustoff45 (Where there is smoke, there is someone playing with matches trying to start a fire.)
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To: Proyecto Anonimo
Times change, rumors are the TR3B has been around since the early 1990's so that's about right for us to find out about it now.

Also another rumor I have never been able to track down is that the mile long or more UFO that flew over phoenix seen by thousands was ours as well. Even though the Governor at the time, Fife Symington made fun of it, Truth was he apologized later and said it was real.

35 posted on 12/23/2016 7:08:14 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Since every Marine is a rifleman first, every Marine aircraft is a gunship first.


36 posted on 12/23/2016 7:08:53 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: tarheelswamprat
I don't know aircraft at all but your logic seems impeccable.
37 posted on 12/23/2016 7:09:28 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: PIF

Sorry there’s lot more. Nice try though. What agency are you with anyway?


38 posted on 12/23/2016 7:10:37 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: PIF
The PIF previously served 4 years in the US Army, DOD, NSA, ASA: assigned Sinope, Turkey and later Mt. Misner, Germany - 1966-1970.

I realize your home page is just sheer coincidence but who are you really?

39 posted on 12/23/2016 7:13:45 AM PST by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: tarheelswamprat
I don't believe the Osprey's have anywhere near that kind of toughness. The A-10's job is to get up-close-and-personal with the enemy at ground level. Consequently, it's highly offensive...and built tough.

The Osprey's job is to deliver troops and supplies to forward areas -- which the A-10 can't do. It would be a good thing if the Osprey could defend itself -- and pass out a little punishment -- while it's performing this role.

40 posted on 12/23/2016 7:17:28 AM PST by okie01
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