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A Conservative Defense of Transgender Rights (National Review)
National Review ^ | 12/17/2016

Posted on 12/21/2016 6:42:08 AM PST by Altura Ct.

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To: Opinionated Blowhard

A man going around proclaiming he’s actually a woman has “rights?”

Yeah? And what if I decide that I’m a 1957 Chevy? And I want the government to pay for my oil changes?

These loonies need to be locked up, not the subjects of legislation.


21 posted on 12/21/2016 6:58:27 AM PST by Nothingburger
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To: Altura Ct.

The problem is between their ears, not their legs.


22 posted on 12/21/2016 6:59:17 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Altura Ct.

Sorry. But when transgenders seek to intrude on my space, the privacy of a bathroom in this case, they become problematic. Given the prime role communal bathrooms have played in homosexuality, it is not surprising that they are now demanding access to whatever bathroom they fancy. Sick and mutant people should not be patronized in any way.


23 posted on 12/21/2016 6:59:18 AM PST by allendale
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To: Altura Ct.

My main problem with the idea that “any transgender” person can use the opposite bathroom is that if they are actually predators or acting creepily, no one in authority will want to kick them out because they could get sued by the ACLU for a violation of their civil rights.

If there is a standard of proof that they actually are TG, then there is clarity. If a person has to show a doctor’s certificate or changed driver’s license, then it is clear that they are really a TG person and not just some predator claimimg to be the opposite sex.

Plus, I do not like the idea of young men in the young women’s locker room. If the young men were really young women in the wrong body, they would understand why.


24 posted on 12/21/2016 6:59:33 AM PST by Chicory
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To: Altura Ct.

Bilge


25 posted on 12/21/2016 7:00:11 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Gay State Conservative

It is a pseudo-science based on a psychiatric dysmorphia disorder. It is the height of self-destructive stupidity to to give ANY weight to “transgenderism” in society.

Himmler created an entire pseudoscience of Aryan ubermensch based on falsified anthropology and archeology. The German government and universities knowingly promulgated this garbage to dehumanize and liquidate their enemies.

I can see from this month’s “gender edition” in National Geographic that history repeats itself. Liberals have learned nothing.


26 posted on 12/21/2016 7:00:22 AM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: Altura Ct.

The people who now run National Review have more in common with John Podesta than they do with me.


27 posted on 12/21/2016 7:02:20 AM PST by cdcdawg
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is NOT libertarian. Don’t confuse it.

If captured, leftist government truly left civil society to manage itself, the 99.99% of people who do not have issues of being “transgendered” would simply conform to a natural system, like we have now, of men’s and women’s bathrooms.

You need an active nanny state, captured by statists/leftists to agitate against Natural Law.

As for NRO, it is full of confused people like this author.


28 posted on 12/21/2016 7:04:46 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Altura Ct.

Why did so many conservatives fail to fight on the transvestite issue that we get pieces like this?


29 posted on 12/21/2016 7:06:11 AM PST by ErikJohnsky
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To: cgbg

“Kids get confused—it is part of growing up and finding yourself. If the society encourages that confusion then it can get a lot worse. That is what we are seeing here.”

I understand that, but more is going on here. The kid is denying reality. She IS a girl. There can be no mistake. She has decided that because she has a feeling (of wanting to be a boy or that she is a boy or that she should be a boy) that she actually IS a boy when she is not a boy, cannot be a boy and never will be a boy.

That is not mere confusion. That is denial of objective and irrefutable reality.


30 posted on 12/21/2016 7:07:42 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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I don’t know exactly what is causing this upsurge in “trans” but it ain’t natural.

Television.

Every single TV show pushes the idea that nothing is really wrong and that everyone is special in some unique way and needs to be looked at in that way. The daughter saw something in herself she didn't like and instead of fixing it, used this as an excuse.
31 posted on 12/21/2016 7:10:29 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Altura Ct.

“Allowing mixed-biological-sex bathrooms risks making adults uncomfortable, and risks opening the door to child predators, or so the argument goes. I’m afraid neither of those positions strikes me as well thought-out. Certainly not from a conservative point of view.”

That’s because it isn’t allowing, it’s about FORCING private businesses to allow men into the women’s sex-exclusive areas on their properties, despite what they or their customers want. I mean how friggen’ hard is to understand?!

That is what the Charlotte ordinance did—FORCED private business owners to let men use the women’s facilities on their property. The NC state law gave the choice BACK to business owners!! Trump and Target can allow all the men they want into the women’s bathrooms and changing areas on their NC properties! Just call up a NC Target and ask them if they let men into the women’s bathroom if the man thinks he is a woman.

Freegards


32 posted on 12/21/2016 7:10:43 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Altura Ct.

Yeah yeah yeah,,,the problem is that its NOT live and let live. The problem is that some progressive bastion is going to mandate that you MUST accommodate crossdressers in your bathrooms, whether you want to or not just cuz THEY say so.

So any bill is a proactive measure to stop such crap.

THATS what happened in NC when Charlotte passed their stupid ordinance and the state had to step in and tell them no. Then we get all kinds of grief and rashers of sh1t over it.
EFF these people.


33 posted on 12/21/2016 7:12:21 AM PST by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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I don’t know exactly what is causing this upsurge in “trans” but it ain’t natural.

It's the trendy thing to do these days. For most, it will pass.

34 posted on 12/21/2016 7:13:51 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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She is not confused, I’ll bet even money she still sits to urinate. Truly believing she was male would have her stand and make a mess.

She knows what she is but wants to either deny it, get attention, or blame God on her feelings.

I would look for an adult “counselor” who is pushing this on her and is “advising” her on her attraction to girls.


35 posted on 12/21/2016 7:14:43 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: All

I fully expect to see a “conservative case for godless communism” and “conservative case for fighting against God” in the near future.


36 posted on 12/21/2016 7:14:45 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Altura Ct.

transgender rights — which ought to be a conservative issue. On the American political spectrum, conservatism is the mind-your-own-business ideology.


Opening women’s bathrooms and locker rooms to men is not conservative. It’s a violation of privacy and it entails too much risk for females. It is liberal-tarian social ideology.

On the other hand, I don’t care if men think they are women and vice versa. That is their business; just don’t impose the mental illness on me.


37 posted on 12/21/2016 7:15:56 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: wbarmy

That’s a big part of it.

Another big part is the government-controlled “education”.


38 posted on 12/21/2016 7:16:28 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Petrosius

Exactly right.


39 posted on 12/21/2016 7:18:02 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Chicory

You do know that the ACLU is a communistic organization, right?


40 posted on 12/21/2016 7:18:19 AM PST by Olog-hai
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