Posted on 12/16/2016 2:20:07 PM PST by Kaslin
It's true! There was no Christmas last year! But there will be one this year. Trump brought it back!
Good to see the El Papa making the case for Protestantism.
It’s idiots like him that drove us to reject the fake church of the Empire.
Read the scripture for yourself. See if you believe it. Don’t worry about preening clowns in big robes and funny hats.
Yes he did and it will be joyous because of that.
On that point alone his election was worth it all.
Was Jesus born in Bethlehem?
They weren’t homeless. They can into town for the mandatory census and there wasn’t any rooms available.
We should re-name Christmas in honor of Trump, no?
Don't have to go that far, but we should certainly rejoice that a man had the strength of character to restore our traditions to us.
That's truly impressive. When did he do this btw?
Again I say, “Ok Peter the Roman, whatever you say @sshat!”
In Wisconsin the other day and in Orlando yesterday.
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We can only know these things to the extent that they are prophesied in Tanak.
Bethlehem is the prophesied town, and the sheep fold of the Passover lambs is the prophesied location therein.
I’m not given to artful answers when a direct one will suffice. Yes, would be sufficient. Simplicity is a virtue.
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There was a point to my answer:
I trust little from the Greek translations of the messianic writings, unless I can corroborate it in the Tanakh.
Reading them is often intellectually painful due to their obvious mistranslation of Hebrew traditions that a Hebrew translator would not have bungled.
Many of the Greek MS appear to have been done far from Judea.
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You assume that Luke, a Greek, did not write in Greek exactly what he wanted to write.
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I’m much less troubled by Luke than by the translators of Matthew, Mark, Paul, Peter, James, and Jude.
The clumsiness of the Greek translation of Matthew is certainly plain to see now that so many copies of the original Hebrew have been found.
Misunderstandings of Paul are the biggie though.
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Paul also, being Greco-Roman from Tarsus, probably wrote his letters to the Greco-Roman world in Greek.
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Paul was illiterate in Greek.
In the Acts, a centurian asks him if he can speak Greek.
His epistles are full of cultural faux pas generated by translation from Paul’s Hebrew to Greek.
AS Paul himself stated in Romans, the oracles of god are committed to Judah. Judah’s language is what the messianic writings were delivered in, because Judah is to whom they were presented.
They make little to no sense in Greek. They are often taken to refute Yeshua’s words recorded in the gospels.
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This man is touched in the head. Mom drop him on his head?
Paul himself says he is a Roman born citizen of Tarsus in Turkey to which he returned for many years after he was protectively sent away. Barnabus then came and found him. He was a tradesman in that area, and the language of commerce was Greek.
And your citation of Paul and the centurion is incomplete. He was asked if he spoke Greek at which point he DID speak Greek to the centurion. He then asked permission to speak to the people at which point he switched to Aramaic.
When they heard the ARAMAIC, after hearing the Greek, they settled down.
***Acts 21: 37 As the soldiers were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, May I say something to you?
Do you speak Greek? he replied. 38 Arent you the Egyptian who started a revolt and led four thousand terrorists out into the wilderness some time ago?
39 Paul answered, I am a Jew, from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Please let me speak to the people.
40 After receiving the commanders permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic[c]: 22 1 Brothers and fathers, listen now to my defense.
22: 2 When they heard him speak to them in Aramaic, they became very quiet.***
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Nothing indicates he spoke Greek to the centurian.
He was raised strictly as a Hebrew, by his mother.
What kind of “tradesman” do you think he was???
He was a Torah scholar, who sometimes built Sukkas for the feast of Tabernacles. (useful only on the temple mount)
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