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To: Fantasywriter

The national public opinion polls are based on estimating the popular vote not the Electoral College vote. The final popular vote tally was Clinton 48.2%/Trump 46.1%.
National polls usually have a +/-3% Statistical Margin of Error so any poll that was within the margin of error was an accurate poll.
Realclearpoltics.com’s average of 11 different national polls predicted an average Clinton popular vote win of 3.3 points, she actually led in the popular vote by 2.1 points so they over-estimated her total by 1.2 points which is well within the statistical margin of error.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

I mentioned rasmussenreports.com and Gallup because they do Presidential job approval polling on a daily basis.


512 posted on 01/07/2017 2:50:28 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

I really don’t care. I once cared about polls but now I’d be more interested in the price of eggs in China, if you get my drift.

Maybe you’ve noticed the spate of articles lately on the subject of Obama’s legacy. Conservatives see it like this: 1, Donald Trump (without Obama’s disastrous tenure, DT would never have won), 2, racial division and hatred the likes of which we haven’t been seen in many, many decades (Obama actively stoked this fire from Day One; read Rules for Radicals—what you see, race-wise, is exactly what community organizers do), and 3, a decimated, discombobulated Dem party.

Obama accomplished those three things, along with demoralizing and undercutting the military, while presiding over a holocaust of enlisted men and women suicides, the likes of which we have NEVER seen, and the doubling of the debt with zip to show for it, etc.

You say the MSM has propped him up. True, but despite Obama’s best efforts, Hillary flamed out in ignominious defeat.

Now you say Obama is up in the polls. I say tell me something that harmonizes with the demoralizing losses the Dems suffered this last go round, as opposed to something that clashes with the practical election outcomes on every level.


513 posted on 01/07/2017 3:54:31 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus

This is what liberals put in charge of America, and is directly the reason for the savagery of the hate-whites/white lives don’t matter culture plaguing the US today:

“An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent... He must create a mechanism that can drain off the underlying guilt for having accepted the previous situation for so long a time. Out of this mechanism, a new community organization arises....

     “The job then is getting the people to move, to act, to participate; in short, to develop and harness the necessary power to effectively conflict with the prevailing patterns and change them. When those prominent in the status quo turn and label you an ‘agitator’ they are completely correct, for that is, in one word, your function—to agitate to the point of conflict.”

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“’The organizer’s first job is to create the issues or problems,’ and ‘organizations must be based on many issues.’ The organizer ‘must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.’”

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm


514 posted on 01/07/2017 5:01:52 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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