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To: DiogenesLamp

Obama doesn’t have to prove his place of birth. Challengers have to prove a different place of birth. A stamped and sealed birth certificate is self-authenticating.

Federal Rule of Evidence 902
Evidence That Is Self-Authenticating

The following items of evidence are self-authenticating; they require no extrinsic evidence of authenticity in order to be admitted:
(1) Domestic Public Documents That Are Sealed and Signed. A document that bears:
(A) a seal purporting to be that of the United States; any state, district, commonwealth, territory, or insular possession of the United States; the former Panama Canal Zone; the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands; a political subdivision of any of these entities; or a department, agency, or officer of any entity named above; and
(B) a signature purporting to be an execution or attestation.
4) Certified Copies of Public Records. A copy of an official record — or a copy of a document that was recorded or filed in a public office as authorized by law — if the copy is certified as correct by:
(A) the custodian or another person authorized to make the certification; or
(B) a certificate that complies with Rule 902(1), (2), or (3), a federal statute, or a rule prescribed by the Supreme Court.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_902


315 posted on 12/19/2016 11:39:46 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
Obama doesn’t have to prove his place of birth. Challengers have to prove a different place of birth.

And this is exactly backwards to rationality. It is so mind numbingly stupid, that it is obviously a modern day invention rather than a concept which the founders contemplated.

A stamped and sealed birth certificate is self-authenticating.

No it isn't. Again, you are talking legalistic jibber-jabber and I am talking about the factual truth. Once again I will inform you that *I* have a birth certificate that deliberately and with knowing aforethought by state officials, contains FALSE INFORMATION.

It may be "self-authenticating" as a state document, but the information contained thereon cannot be accepted at face value when it is a well known occurrence for false information to be placed on them under circumstances similar to Obama's.

You just keep pushing that old adage, "When the Law is on your side, pound the law!"

I am pushing the concept "When the facts are on your side, pound the facts!"

Most of us here understand that the "Law is an @$$", and therefore do not much care what our "betters" tell us regarding the law. We are interested in truth, not creative and nonsensical interpretations of law.

321 posted on 12/19/2016 12:13:25 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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