Explaining How Recounts and Presidential Elections Work

National Constitution Center ^ | 10/26/2016 | Scott Bomboy

[RooRoobird20]

"Under federal law (3 U.S. Code § 5) known as the safe harbor provision, a state must determine its electors six days before the Electoral College members meet in person. In 2016, that deadline is Tuesday December 13th, since the college votes on December 19."

[RooRoobird20]

Very important, FEDERAL LAW defines "safe harbor" as six days before the Electoral College meets in person on December 19th. "Under federal law (3 U.S. Code § 5) known as the safe harbor provision, a state must determine its electors six days before the Electoral College members meet in person. In 2016, that deadline is December 13, since the college votes on December 19."

So one way or another, WI, MI and PA must determine their electors by Tuesday the 13th. I'm not sure what the state laws for WI, PA and MI say re: if they have not finished a recount by the 13th. Do they have to go by the initial count, the certified count, do the legislatures have a right to choose the electors, etc.? Does anyone know?

[goldstategop]

If the recount isn’t finished in time, the legislature can appoint the electors so they can vote.

WI, MI and PA have GOP legislatures.

[Jeff Chandler]

Headline of the Day Poll

What motivates faithless electors who refuse to vote for Trump?

Personal integrity: They are following their consciences
Dishonesty: They are Leftists in disguise
Narcissism: They are seeking attention

Read more: http://www.headlineoftheday.com/#ixzz4SAUfj3cF

[CyberAnt]

This is another item the schools have also abandoned teaching. Guess they don’t want the electorate having a clue how it works.

Parents, you better challenge your schools and let them know your children need to learn how the electoral system works; and they will learn it best if they have their own elections .. Student Body President, Hall monitors, trash monitor, etc. When you involve the children in taking care of themselves, they never forget that training.

[Reagan80]

Indeed. Elections matter.

[RooRoobird20]

If the recount isn’t finished in time, the legislature can appoint the electors so they can vote.

WI, MI and PA have GOP legislatures.

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This is good to know, very good to know. So as infuriating as these recounts and that @ss Judge Goldsmith are, they too shall pass. They are just tiny blips which will fade away into the nothingness of history.

It will be fun when we can officially whomp up on Cankles for a second time!!! As clueless as she is, I think she’s been nursing an obsessive-compulsive manic-depressive hope that somehow she will take the presidency back from the evil Donald Trump (LMAO). When it smacks her in the face that this is NOT going to happen, I predict another Cankles drunken, screaming rage-a-thon that will go on for days. :0)

[stremba]

That’s true in general. Constitutionally speaking, a state need not even hold a Presidential election. The electors may be chosen by ANY method that is determined by the state’s legislature. For many of the elections in the early history of the US, electors were appointed by state legislature without any popular vote whatsoever. Any requirement for a popular vote is a state requirement that could (at least in theory) be overturned by the state legislature.

[leaning conservative]

For later

[Verginius Rufus]

As late as 1860, the electors in South Carolina were chosen by a convention. When the convention met in December 1860, knowing that Lincoln had won the election, they voted to secede from the Union instead of selecting electors.

[Nifster]

The motive is simple.....

EGO

[GailA]

How does this effect this

Uh Oh: Half Of Detroit’s Ballots Might Be Disqualified Due To Errors
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/12/06/uh-oh-half-of-detroits-ballots-might-be-disqualified-due-to-ballot-errors-n2256152?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

[RooRoobird20]

Uh Oh: Half Of Detroit’s Ballots Might Be Disqualified Due To Errors
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/12/06/uh-oh-half-of-detroits-ballots-might-be-disqualified-due-to-ballot-errors-n2256152?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

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Oh my, I’m so sad!!! The only possible explanation: Donald Trump and his supporters are racists, bwah-hah-hah-hah!!!!

[WildHighlander57]

goldstategop wrote:

“If the recount isn’t finished in time, the legislature can appoint the electors so they can vote.

WI, MI and PA have GOP legislatures.”

Am I right in saying that that is the case for —all— the state legislatures?

Including WI, MI, and PA?

And also if one of them is still wrangling over whether or not a recount should continue? (Example, MI)

Or whether it should even occur? (PA is actually a contestation)