Posted on 12/05/2016 10:16:36 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
Per Wikipedia not the greatest source, but the Michigan Supreme Court has a 4-3 conservative Republican majority.
Phineas1962 wrote:
“I know the MI and PA has been certified. MI had already a recount. There is no recount in PA as of now. MI a recount is going on, BUT if not finished by the deadline, the Electors will vote for Trump since a desertification process has not happened. I don’t know if WI Electors have been certified yet.
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MI certification doc (h/t mrsmith)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3499138/posts?page=183#183
Where’s the one for PA?
bushwon wrote:
“Yes, and it would result in the election being determined by the House of Representitives.
Not necessarily...
A different point of view from LS, a Freeper who has been in contact with Trump campaign and seems to know historical precedent and the Constitution.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3500777/posts
But watching the recounts and the handwringing by “concern trolls” here, I wanted to include this update. This is strictly MY understanding of state laws and the U.S. Constitution, but I think most of you share it. If, however, someone has different info, please let me know.
* The recounts really don’t matter. There are never more than a handful of votes flipped. In WI after 1 day, Trump really has about 400 MORE votes than before, as an input error in one of the precincts failed to include a digit in its original transmission, while the recount so far has “found” one additional Cankles vote.
* It is my understanding, based on the precedent of the U.S. Civil War, when several Southern states were declared “in rebellion” and therefore did not send electors to the electoral college (although Louisiana did!), the winner is determined by a majority of those states who send delegates. The only time in peacetime that a delegation did not participate was 1789 when New York’s delegation was late arriving.
* Therefore, it would not matter if one state (WI) or all three (WI, MI, PA) don’t send delegates, Trump would still win a majority of those who did.
* It is further my understanding REGARDLESS, any or all of the state legislatures of WI, PA, MI can at any time select/appoint/name the electors to attend the EC. They do not have to wait for a recount. All three are controlled by Republicans.
* MI’s AG has filed suit to stop the recount, the election board split 2-2, so the AG has appealed to the state Supreme Court. (Does anyone know if it is majority R or D?)
* On the “faithless electors”: You have heard scare-mongering stories of electors who won’t vote for Trump: These are from STATES CANKLES WON. It makes no difference. In most states, it’s a crime not to vote for the winner, and in all states electors are the creme de la creme of rabid Trump supporters. Highly unlikely any of them will flip. But again, the state legislature-—as I understand it-—sends in the electoral delegation and would have final say. Please correct me if I’m wrong on this. The last time there was a “faithless elector” was in 2004, and it was a Dem who wouldn’t vote for Kerry and voted for Silky Pony. You have to go back to 1976 to find just ONE “faithless” GOP elector who refused to vote for Ford because he pardoned Richard E. Nixon.
* I lived in OH and didn’t know that in 2004 OH’s count was protested and there was a recount and the House had to vote on Ohio’s delegation.
* IF IT GOES to the House, the House selects Trump. The Senate votes on a veep. It’s inconceivable that the GOP Senate would choose anyone but Pence.
In other words, for all the concern trolls, nothing will change. Trump is going to be president.
Now for the final concern troll mantra, “Trump will be delegitimized.” No. There is only one person who can “delegitimize” Trump and that’s Donald Trump. He WILL NOT PERMIT HIMSELF to be distracted by the drive-bys. He doesn’t care what they say about him.
No candidate in history, save perhaps Lincoln, has had such a view of the media. They simply cannot threaten, cajole, or scare him. Think of McConnell, Boehner, McCain, Ryan-—how these guys are so terrified of the media. Trump doesn’t care. They still don’t get him. This victory tour is a prime example-—who else does this? Bush certainly never did, and I don’t recall Reagan ever doing so.
So, long and short: President Trump will be sworn in, on time, on schedule. He won’t be “delegitimized.” America will be great again, and we will have a book documenting it out in January!
From lunchtime on Monday:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3501636/posts
To: blam; 1_Rain_Drop; 3D-JOY; Abbeville Conservative; Abby4116; acoulterfan; Airwinger; ...
Because I’m so sick of these “OMG, what if” threads, I asked TEAM TRUMP direct:
What is your confidence level you come away with these (recount) states?”
Answer: “1000%” “
Many many thanks for posting this!!!
MI certification doc (h/t mrsmith)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3499138/posts?page=183#183
I’m looking for the other two certification docs.
And links to where the SoS’es had sent in the electors lists .
That is the point. Clinton and Soros know that vote corrections will be heavily away from Clinton which would make the process of recounting superficially counterproductive but if it pulls Trump below 270 by levering those 3 states out of the EC then it goes to the house where Trump will be elected, or he may not. It makes the opportunity for the Republicans to get Clinton after all which is who most of them preferred. Actually they will most likely vote Trump but then the Left has their issue for the next 4 years i.e. Trump won neither the popular nor the EC vote -Selectod, NOT Elected!
Mrs Bill’s sanity and physical health is of no concern to George Soros- so long as she is useful- who is running this mess.
Nah. Yea have little faith. Our system will work and all this hand wringing will be just mouthy bluster to be forgotten asap.
It’s almost EVERY OTHER ####ing article!!!
Yeah, four states won’t get to vote and hillary will win.
And that will be that. /s
This is why multi-level marketing and other scams continue to be successful. There is no end to gullible people out there to be taken in.
Has anyone noticed that none of the networks are mentioning anything about these recount efforts? I wonder why?
It then goes to the House of Representatives. GOP controls it and they surely aren’t going to put Hillary in the WH.
As soon as I saw the headline, I figured it was from Gateway Pundit. It is becoming increasingly less reliable. The Wisconsin recount is progressing at a decent pace, and Michigan has already been certified. It is unlikely that any state will be disenfranchised, let alone all three.
You voted for the “selected” elector in November. The states don’t make that up now.
Yes, it's getting amusing and a bit sad. We are suppose to believe that 80 million voters from three of the largest states in the nation are going to be completely disenfranchised and no judge anywhere is going to lift a finger to prevent it. Then apparently the Republican Congress is going to, for some reason, give the election to Hillary instead of Trump (because a vote in the House is how the election is decided if no candidate gets 270, which is what would happen if those states had no electors). Then Hillary is just going to waltz into the Oval Office and everybody is just going say "Gee Whiz, she really pulled one over on us."
Well stated and MUCH more articulate than my Staten Islandeze :)
If they want a civil war, they will get it.
Somebody needs to find that Turd George Soros who is funding this.
The last time Gateway Pundit quoted from an anonymous source, it informed us that the Wisconsin recount would reveal massive fraud by the Democrats. Now he tells us that the Wisconsin recount will help the Democrats. Again from an anonymous source. It might be time to think twice before posting anything from Gateway.
Thanks that is good news.
“States will make sure they have a slate of electors ready for Dec 19. So many drama queens in the press and on this forum.”
Yes, agreed on both. And Gateway loves to keep the pot stirred in their never ending click bait efforts. For that reason, I’m not even going there. NYT or WaPo or Gateway - when it comes to facts, what’s the difference?
I’m confused. So NOT drama queens ?
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