I would not trust the results of torture, the natural inclination of suspects would be to say anything plausible to get the torture to stop, but probably not the truth, so how can you rely on what you “learn” if it is more often false than true?
There must be more sophisticated means of getting the reluctant to talk. For example, you could provide internet access and monitor what the suspect was looking at; he might realize what the motive was, but not be smart enough to hide all of his thought processes. I’m not talking about granting communication privileges although under the right supervision that could be productive too. This of course would apply more to special situations and not general inmate situations which would be constitutionally bound.
The larger question is how to stop terrorism. It may sound trite but not enough emphasis has been placed on the question of motivation. How can we reduce the motivation to commit terrorist acts? I am not talking about going soft and squishy on foreign policy, I am talking about real-world solutions here, what would reduce the motivation of a potential terrorist to act? I leave this as an open question. Clearly, we have not hit upon any meaningful disincentives as of yet.
The motivation is provided by a religion that has been around for 14 centuries.
I am not talking about going soft and squishy on foreign policy, I am talking about real-world solutions here
Yes, you are.
I am talking about real-world solutions here, what would reduce the motivation of a potential terrorist to act?
Well, we've opened our doors to them. We've granted special privileges to them and to their religious practices that other Americans don't enjoy. We've given them special legal protections that they don't enjoy in their countries of origin. We've given their countries billions in aid money. We've also hunted them down, imprisoned them, tortured them, killed them, and blown up a few of their countries.
Sounds like the whole gamut to me. What else do you have in mind?
Clearly, we have not hit upon any meaningful disincentives as of yet.
What absolute horse poop.
The shortest distance between the two points of what we're not doing and what they want is to listen to the things they say they want.
Here's what they want, genius, because here's what they've said they want: They want us converted to their religion, or dead.
We're not going to do that. Do all the navel gazing you want, but we're NOT going to do that.
“I would not trust the results of torture, the natural inclination of suspects would be to say anything plausible to get the torture to stop, but probably not the truth, so how can you rely on what you learn if it is more often false than true?”
That’s just bogus garbage written by liberals on the Internet. Professional know otherwise.
“I would not trust the results of torture, the natural inclination of suspects would be to say anything plausible to get the torture to stop, but probably not the truth, so how can you rely on what you learn if it is more often false than true?”
Going through SERE we learned torture techniques and how to resist.
We also were educated on how to obtain credible information while using torture. It is not simply pulling out fingernails. . .much more nuanced and planned.