Posted on 12/05/2016 11:35:41 AM PST by MaxistheBest
The motivation is provided by a religion that has been around for 14 centuries.
I am not talking about going soft and squishy on foreign policy, I am talking about real-world solutions here
Yes, you are.
I am talking about real-world solutions here, what would reduce the motivation of a potential terrorist to act?
Well, we've opened our doors to them. We've granted special privileges to them and to their religious practices that other Americans don't enjoy. We've given them special legal protections that they don't enjoy in their countries of origin. We've given their countries billions in aid money. We've also hunted them down, imprisoned them, tortured them, killed them, and blown up a few of their countries.
Sounds like the whole gamut to me. What else do you have in mind?
Clearly, we have not hit upon any meaningful disincentives as of yet.
What absolute horse poop.
The shortest distance between the two points of what we're not doing and what they want is to listen to the things they say they want.
Here's what they want, genius, because here's what they've said they want: They want us converted to their religion, or dead.
We're not going to do that. Do all the navel gazing you want, but we're NOT going to do that.
What are they proposing, forcing Terrorists to listen to Hillary and Obama Speeches?
“Why am I not 50 points ahead you might ask”. LOL
It is well that war is so terrible or else we would come to love it. Torture is part and parcel of that nastiness. Sometimes, you do what ya gotta do....
Water boarding is NOT TORTURE.
It is something they used to do to our elite troops during training.
The only problem with torture is making is that you can be sure the Left is salivating to use against ‘terrorists’ in the NRA and the Tea Party other conservative, pro-gun or alt-right organization they don’t like.
The American public is not really expert on this stuff.
To them going without internet for twenty minutes is torture.
The very concept of torture is outdated, and reflective of a lack of creativity, and usually low morale.
The US first used something like waterboarding in the Philippine Insurrection (1899-1902). By World War II, both the US and Germans were familiar with sodium pentathol, aka “truth syrum”. By the 1960’s-’70’s, both Cold War powers were developing potent pharmaceutical drugs at a tremendous clip. This development continues today.
We have drugs that administered just once are as addictive as is heroin, alcohol and tobacco combined.
Another drug makes a person utterly terrified of almost any stimulus.
We have “endorphine blockers” that can negate the bodies natural painkillers, making any sensation agonizing, far worse than heroin withdrawal.
Psychoactive drugs almost beyond description.
So with such a pharmacology available, why “torture”?
Cruel and unusual punishment, is a protection for citizens. There once was a time where we knew the Rights of Americans belonged to Americans, not enemy combatants.
Beat me to it re “Obama has been torturing tens of millions for 8 years”. Adding: And he was successful enough to get enough of them to vote for him, TWICE.
See: Torture does work. You just have to know which technique works. Just as a braindead Democrat.
Torture works. Just put a bomb vest on someone then point to a terrorist across the room and tell them they have 5 minutes before the bomb goes off...so get the stop code from that terrorist by any means possible. They’ll resort to violence within 10 seconds.
“I would not trust the results of torture, the natural inclination of suspects would be to say anything plausible to get the torture to stop, but probably not the truth, so how can you rely on what you “learn” if it is more often false than true?”
That’s just bogus garbage written by liberals on the Internet. Professional know otherwise.
YUup. . .and if applied correctly, very useful.
“I would not trust the results of torture, the natural inclination of suspects would be to say anything plausible to get the torture to stop, but probably not the truth, so how can you rely on what you “learn” if it is more often false than true?”
Going through SERE we learned torture techniques and how to resist.
We also were educated on how to obtain credible information while using torture. It is not simply pulling out fingernails. . .much more nuanced and planned.
“It is something they used to do to our elite troops during training.”
Still do.
I...uh...may have neglected to mention what it was they were standing on...
John McLame, what are you doing here.
Well, guess the old black and decker drill is just too old fashion now that they got drugs and waterboarding.
>> “It is something they used to do to our elite troops during training.”
> Still do.
And I thought they stopped the practice due to liberal pressure.
I remember when I got it. The entire time, all I could think of was “how many guys coughed and spit into the ratty torn t-shirt draped over my face?”, then about 75 seconds later it was over, I coughed a bunch and then they threw me in the box.
Who gets to decide who’s a terrorist and who isn’t? The liberals would love to do that to us you know...
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