Posted on 12/05/2016 9:16:09 AM PST by upchuck
...This election day, California voters tightened gun control, extended taxes on the rich, hiked cigarette taxes, legalized marijuana, boosted multilingual education — and of course provided Hillary Clinton with all of her winning margin of 2 million popular votes, and then some, in her losing campaign for president...
Secession talk is more valuable as a pointer to all the ways that California and federal policies are likely to come into conflict during the next few years than as a formula for practical politics.
California has been among the national leaders in reducing greenhouse gas emissions, and as recently as September strengthened its policies with a law mandating the reduction of climatologically harmful emissions to 40% below 1990 levels by 2030. Its auto emission rules traditionally have set a benchmark for the auto industry and federal regulators.
During his campaign, Trump dismissed climate change as a Chinese hoax and pledged to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris agreement to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, which already has been ratified by 113 of the 197 signatory countries. The U.S. ratified the agreement by presidential order on Sept. 3.
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“Should California secede? How the state is politically out of step with the rest of the country”
actually, only a half a dozen highly urban counties in California are out of step with the rest of the country. I’d be perfectly happy if those counties seceded and left the rest of California in the U.S.
GO! Secede! Take all the natural born Californians that are in Texas with you (unless the are political refugees seeking freedom).
Didn’t we settle this issue with a war a few years ago? I think 2% of the population or 620,000 men died. I believe it was in all the papers. Can someone help remind me?
California could be a sort of buffer state between the US and Mexico. But then, the US would have a much longer border on which to build a barrier, fence or wall or whatever.
I have been on the Von Schmidt line, which runs through some mighty rugged country south of Lake Tahoe. There was a crude boundary marker, an old oil barrel painted yellow and filled with rocks, with “Nevada” written on one side and “California” on the other. The fractional section lines are all screwy there, because of two different survey baselines that did not quite mesh.
Secession would not set well in the “red” counties of Central and Eastern California—and the folks who live there have all the guns.
We should do everything possible to help them. Can we hustle up Freepers in California to support their cause?
The smug arrogant elites pushing this idea would be the first ones to leave when it all turned to mud.
How about the Mojave desert and the Sierra Nevada ‘s?
California is going to secede from the union so they can keep their slaves?
If we decided to help them wouldn’t it be better to get the Creepers out so that they can retain their citizenship?
Because frankly once the borders are closed I think it would be best to severely limit travel visas from California.
I would love to see the blue California coast cede and the red California interior regain freedom. Let them go if that is their wish.
We sure do!
Let them move south to Mexico or north to Canada
Most are the majority of "rebel" numbers are illegals from Mexico anyway
The ignorance, it burns!
yes please.
67 votes in the Senate to ratify a treaty
Not federally, but East CA should secede and form a new state, using up most of the land aside from a heavily populated coastal sliver that would remain as CA, giving us two more red senators and a good chunk of the electoral pie that would now get decided by this new red state.
What a pukeworthy article.
The author lists every stupid policy that California has recently enacted, and frames them as noble bragging points.
Utterly delusional.
Sounds like a good plan. Just add a few west coast liberal megacities to your list, like Gay Frisco/la Raza San Jose, BLM/Oakland, Portland, and Seattle.
“Actually it would be better if once cities got large enough they would just become their own countries like monaco or leitchenstein or whatever.
It would clear the progressive dead wood from our country if New York, and LA become their own countries and had to negotiate a trade deal with the heart land to keep their citizens fed, hehe heh!”
Yes, please.
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