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To: Cheerio
This is a very big underlying issue, the fact that a significant number of Mexicans feel that the US southwest is theirs. Mexico, as a land/region has been populated by indigenous people for thousands of years, and definitely many of these people were displaced by the series of wars and conquests that involved this region, including the Spanish colonization in the 1600s. As a country, Mexico was founded in 1824, obviously after the US was founded.

My point is that it's not a situation in which Mexico was a longstanding territorial reality that the US stole land from. Indigenous peoples, throughout the Americas, have legitimate complaints about the ways they've been treated, and IMHO we should be respecting our territorial commitments to our indigenous people, including respecting the autonomy of reservations, and also encouraging all indigenous people born into American heritage to take part in and benefit from all the educational and economic opportunity our nation has to offer. That said, Mexico has the same responsibility to its indigenous people, and often fails in this.

7 posted on 12/04/2016 7:54:57 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle; Travis McGee

See the Travis McGee short history of the Soutwest that’s on my FR profile page for a great summary. Clearly you get it, but the summary is useful for those who don’t.


11 posted on 12/04/2016 8:14:08 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

There is not a nation on earth that wasn’t stolen from some original people. The “indigenous people” conquered by Spanish conquistadors were, in fact, conquerors of the previous indigenous people. Humane treatment and lawful regard for treaties should be paramount; however addressing past injustices only brings more injustice. California is one of the most beautiful, temperate environments in the world. Once a beacon of economic opportunity and a showcase for rational progress, it has become the poster child for liberal failure.

Mexico already has material wealth, but its culture of corruption has kept it from experiencing it’s potential. With or without immigration, California has long pursued the same path. Despite an economic output surpassing most nations, Californian fascists have destroyed the state without even managing to get the trains running on schedule.

California dreaming is great in theory, but I wish they’d keep it to themselves and quit ruining the rest of the country with their mindless propaganda and constant conquest through migration. Whenever a viable group Californians move, they generate another fascist infestation.


13 posted on 12/04/2016 8:31:19 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle


The Reconquista Movement: Mexico’s Plan for the American Southwest

Human Events, Jul 27, 2006
15 posted on 12/04/2016 8:35:45 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Go back to DU! Your comments are laughable. Taken to the extreme, we'd have to go back to the time of Christ to determine who the original indigenous people are. This Mexican trash who think they have some claim to our southwestern lands because others of their "eithnicity" once lived there are the Hispanic analog to the current day Blacks who think they are owed reparations for slavery as some sort of "decendents" of those who were.
24 posted on 12/04/2016 8:47:47 AM PST by vette6387
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

It will be easier to “respect the “autonomy” of the reservations” when they stop begging for handouts from us, and actually get off the FedGov plantation.


28 posted on 12/04/2016 9:41:48 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

The past is the past, they need to get over it, and they lost.


30 posted on 12/04/2016 9:43:46 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

The current Mexican people who are trying to conquer America are not descended from the indigenous people of the American Southwest. . You are correct, Mexicans have zero legitimate claim to our lands.

And there is the whole other issue about our people. Wars and treaties have consequences. It’s unfortunate so many past presidents ignored our territorial commitments to these people. The only consolation is that so many Americans love to gamble. A few are benefiting quite handsomely.


33 posted on 12/04/2016 10:33:31 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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