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Why U.S. 'News' Media Shouldn't Be Trusted
Strategic Culture ^ | 02 December 2012 | Eric Zuesse

Posted on 12/03/2016 8:23:38 AM PST by Lorianne

The great metascientist and statistician Nassim Nicholas Taleb headlined on November 22nd a devastating takedown of U.S. ‘news’ media and academia, «Syria and the Statistics of War», and he began there by exposing the highly honored Harvard fraud, Dr. Steven Pinker, but then went pretty much through the entire U.S. ‘intellectual’ Establishment, including all of its major ‘news’ media, as being untrustworthy on the part of any intelligent person. (Regarding Professor Pinker specifically, Taleb linked to this scientific paper that Taleb had co-authored, which shredded one of Pinker’s highly honored and biggest-selling books. Taleb and his colleague mentioned there an article that had appeared in Britain’s Guardian raising serious questions about Pinker’s work, and they were here offering statistical proof of the fraudulence of that work.)

The scenario of exposing intellectual fraud is so common: the only reason why it’s not better known among the public is that usually the disproofs of highly honored work have no impact, and fail to dislodge the prejudices that the given established fraud has ‘confirmed’. Another good example of that occurred when the University of Massachusetts graduate student Thomas Herndon issued his proof of the fraudulence of the extremely influential economics paper by Kenneth Rogoff and Carmine Rinehart, «Growth in a Time of Debt», which had been widely cited by congressional Republicans and other conservatives as a main ‘justification’ for imposing draconian economic austerity on the U.S. and other nations during the recovery from the 2008 economic crash. Years later, that graduate student is still a graduate student (i.e., unemployed), while Kenneth Rogoff remains, as he was prior to his having been exposed: one of Harvard’s most prominent professors of economics, and a member of the Group of 30 — the world’s 30 most influential and powerful economists. Carmen Rinehart likewise retains her position also as a Harvard Professor. Previously, the Harvard Economics Department had guided communist Russia into a crony-capitalist (or fascist) ‘democracy’, but then Vladimir Putin took over Russia and got rid of the worst excesses of Harvard’s «capitalism» and so became hated by the U.S. aristocracy and its ‘news’ media — hated for having tried to establish Russia’s national independence, Russia’s independence from the U.S. aristocracy (which expected, and still craves, to control Russia). And now after Donald Trump’s victory against the super-neoconservative hater of Russia, Hillary Clinton, the U.S. Establishment, through its voices such as the Washington Post, is trying to smear — like Joseph R. McCarthy smeared America’s non-fascists back in the 1950s — the tiny independent newsmedia that had been reporting truthfully about U.S.-Russian relations and America’s coups and invasions trying to weaken and ultimately to conquer Russia even if that means nuclear war.

Similarly, when George W. Bush and his stenographic national ‘news’ media pumped Bush’s lies about ‘Saddam’s WMD’ in 2002, and were assisted in that by such scholars as the Brookings Institution’s Kenneth Pollock and Michael O’Hanlon, there was no accountability: Bush was re-elected and all of the corrupt scholars kept their jobs and continued to be retained as ‘experts’ by CNN and other U.S. ’news’ media to comment upon foreign affairs — and CNN and The New York Times and other leading ’news’ media weren’t cancelled by an American public who had had enough of being lied-to; Americans wanted to be lied-to more. The public distrust the ‘news’ media more than ever, but do they distrust it enough to quit subscribing to them? No.

The U.S. public have apparently been responding to the election or selection of Donald Trump as the next President, by soaring numbers of subscriptions to the major U.S. ’news’ media, presumably because this is somehow ‘justified’ on account of (as all of those ’news’ media ‘verified’) Trump was lying even more than Hillary — more than the lying by the candidate whom all of the media-moguls had wanted to become President.

In the immediate wake of the election, there have been all-time-record-high numbers of new subscriptions to The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and to ‘non-profit’ ‘news’ media such as Pro-Publica, and to NPR member-stations. CNN reported that, "The New York Times has added 41,000 paid subscriptions across its print and digital platforms in the week since the presidential election, representing the largest subscription increase since it introduced its pay-wall in 2011».

During an earlier era, the U.S. public responded similarly to the ‘news’ media that had lied the U.S. into World War I (a conflict where the rights and wrongs were far less clear than was to be the case regarding WW II, but where the Wall Street banks were vastly more invested in Britain than in Germany and so Wall Street’s position on the matter was far more unified then in favor of Britain, and so the U.S. ‘news’ media’s position likewise was). Americans at that time did not lapse their subscriptions to the propaganda media that had lied their country into war. America’s ‘news’ media used similar tactics to get us into WW I to help Britain’s aristocrats, as they used to help U.S. President George Herbert Walker Bush’s regime in 1990 to invade Iraq to help Kuwait’s aristocrats (the Sabah family).

However, America’s ‘news’ media don’t all lie in the same direction. For example, when the Republican George W. Bush was in the White House, the most deluded of all the major-media audiences was that of the Republican Party’s Fox News Channel, which audience gave the highest percentages of false answers, because Republican ‘news’ operations were then spouting Republican propaganda about a Republican President — stenographically pumping out Republican propaganda as ‘news’. But when the Democrat Barack Obama was in the White House, the Democratic Party’s ‘news’ media were lying at least as much as Fox and other Republican media were lying when the President was a Republican. None of the major American ‘news’ media, either mainstream or ‘alt news’, can be at all trusted by an intelligent reader, listener, or viewer. A person needs to go instead to the types of news-sites such as publish articles like the current one — and none of those sites has a very large audience. (Most of them ended up on this list of sites the U.S. aristocracy wants banned.) But, above all, nobody should trust any ‘news’ report without spot-checking its linked sources; and, if the main sources aren’t linked, then an intelligent reader won’t trust the article at all. The only way intelligently to trust any news-report is to spot-check its sources and evaluate their credibility on one’s own; and any ‘news’ report which makes that difficult to do should simply be distrusted — and this includes especially newspapers, magazines, television, radio, and other such ‘news’ media, because they rely upon audiences who have no easy means of verifying or else disproving what they’re alleging. All of the best news-sources are thus small-to-medium-sized online-only ones — and those happen to be the ones that the aristocracy (the billionaires and centi-millionaires) haven’t yet taken control of.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: media; russianpropaganda; trumpisputinsbitch

1 posted on 12/03/2016 8:23:38 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Similarly, when George W. Bush and his stenographic national ‘news’ media pumped Bush’s lies about ‘Saddam’s WMD’ in 2002,

Yeah. Funny thing about that. President George W. Bush gets blamed from lying about Saddam Hussein having WMDs when President Bill Clinton said the same thing 4 years earlier. Weird, huh?

Here. Listen for yourself....


Bill Clinton: Clear Evidence of Iraqi WMD Program

Ah, well. Why let a trivial thing like facts get in the way?

2 posted on 12/03/2016 8:34:39 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Lorianne

The US media has been compromised by US intelligence, Communist and Racialist philosophies. As such, the spreading of propaganda, disinformation, and misinformation is part of a plan to “educate” the masses.

While we in this country believe we are a “bastion of freedom”, as a matter of fact, some other countries have a more diverse print and broadcast media. Some have less restrictions on personal freedoms.

In theory, the US has more protections, but many have long ago been thrown away in pursuit of a “higher goal”. That goal is group rights, instead of the individual rights that are God given, and should be government protected.

That is why I don’t respect or believe what the media tells me. They lie, and attempt to influence people in ways that would make the Nazi propaganda ministries heart swell with pride.


3 posted on 12/03/2016 8:37:21 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: Lorianne

So...everything is propaganda?


4 posted on 12/03/2016 8:38:08 AM PST by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: Lorianne

Fake News Sites




5 posted on 12/03/2016 8:42:56 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Lorianne

6 posted on 12/03/2016 8:44:15 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Lorianne
Why U.S. 'News' Media Shouldn't Be Trusted

I can answer that in a single line: Because they've proven themselves untrustworthy.

7 posted on 12/03/2016 8:53:35 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Texas Eagle

Thanks for bringing up this reality re the Clintoons saying that Saddam had WMDs.


8 posted on 12/03/2016 8:54:18 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: Lorianne

Though in some ways it is disturbing to some, I believe we’re going through a few-year phase where a much larger pctage of the population now sees that MSM news is astoundingly worthless. And....nobody needs any external references to see this, if they are *willing* to see this.

Some would say the MSM press has ALWAYS been largely co-opted by their need to be next to power (and thus their perceived need to laud it) so they can get their next story.

When we say that MSM has been “captured” by this or that “evil” force; they have been equivalently captured by their own economic death spirals. It costs a lot to have foreign offices in several international capitals. What these news outlets have done is to fire their foreign correspondents/employees as a cost-control matter and have come to rely upon (especially and egregiously in the last 8 years) the WH press releases of “talking points” and 2-year out of J-school grad students for their staffing; outside of those familiar faces with whom they feel the audience has affinity.

Anyone who has heard a couple of Rush’ sound bite collections where EVERY news outlet says the exact same words cannot escape this sort of conclusion. It’s no different than the constant chants of racism.

Nobody with a brain who has watched this election needs any external reference to conclude that MSM reporting is worthless. It *does* take reminding one’s self frequently because we hear this reporting going on in the background and unless we/you are vigilant, it automatically assumes a form of credibility just because the people are nicely dressed, on a fancy set, or on a big screen where they are practically in your living room. But this election, indeed, the last 8 years of this miserable regime has shown a degree of propagandization and sycophancy that like everything liberals do, went so far that it became a satire of itself it got so stupid.

Me? I’ve gone the other way. If I hear or see it in the MSM press on TV (I don’t own a TV) my first thought is “if I’m seeing/hearing it here, it’s almost certainly bulls**t”.


9 posted on 12/03/2016 8:54:44 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: Grampa Dave
You're welcome. It doesn't completely exonerate President Bush. He was relying on information he received from people who were around during Clinton's presidency.

It's like that scene from Animal House where Bluto tells Flounder, "Face it. You screwed up. You trusted us."

10 posted on 12/03/2016 8:56:25 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Lorianne
The U.S. public have apparently been responding to the election or selection of Donald Trump as the next President, by soaring numbers of subscriptions to the major U.S. ’news’ media, presumably because this is somehow ‘justified’ on account of (as all of those ’news’ media ‘verified’) Trump was lying even more than Hillary — more than the lying by the candidate whom all of the media-moguls had wanted to become President.

That convoluted paragraph completely throws we me of track. Where does he personally stand? I can't tell whether he is paraphrasing or espousing his own views.

11 posted on 12/03/2016 9:01:10 AM PST by fision
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To: Texas Eagle
Thanks for one of the best ever movie lines, and the BOL of the day for me!

It's like that scene from Animal House where Bluto tells Flounder, "Face it. You screwed up. You trusted us."

12 posted on 12/03/2016 9:30:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: Lorianne
I guess the fact that they championed an America-hating illegal alien to be commander and chief of our armed forces is not enough....


13 posted on 12/03/2016 9:55:41 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Lorianne

Looks like a left-leaning author to me... just sayin’.


14 posted on 12/03/2016 9:56:28 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Lorianne

This guy is a lefty.


15 posted on 12/03/2016 10:48:28 AM PST by Luke21
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To: fision

To paraphrase the insightful, prescient and humorous Mark Twain:

If you don’t watch/read/listen to the MSM, you are uninformed. If you watch/read/listen to the MSM, you are misinformed.

Nowadays, with alternative sources for information, you need to be neither uninformed nor misinformed.


16 posted on 12/03/2016 10:54:48 AM PST by hadit2here ("The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule." -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: goodnesswins
So...everything is propaganda?

Yep. Pretty much. The CIA was publicly exposed by the Church Committee in the US Senate back in 1975 as having co-opted the main stream media.

Quote from Wikipedia:
Does anyone believe that after being exposed the CIA simply said, well okay, we won't do that any more. They direct the narrative of ALL the major media and much of everything else. The only thing you can trust and learn from is the comment section below a news article where informed readers will expose their lies using facts and logic. There will be plenty of lies and misdirection mixed in there with the truth but as usual, the truth will out.

If the comment section on an article is closed then you know it is an important piece of propaganda that they don't want exposed and you should keep an eye on it as it moves through their propaganda machine from mouthpiece to mouthpiece. Their "false news" and "Russian propaganda" memes are currently being pushed. Wonder what they are setting up with those?

17 posted on 12/03/2016 10:59:26 AM PST by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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