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1 posted on 12/02/2016 4:31:28 AM PST by Kaslin
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The hypothesis of the article is not too bad.

The execution is mediocre.

2 posted on 12/02/2016 4:37:01 AM PST by marktwain
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CO2 is plant food! Free Kale for everyone!


3 posted on 12/02/2016 4:40:11 AM PST by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First!)
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A good article that shows the math for how impossible it is to reduce our CO2 output to 1940 levels.

Of course he makes the poor assumption (I know - he’s just being the devil’s advocate) that manmade CO2 can somehow effect the level of “greenhouse gases” to any significant degree. Natural water vapor accounts for 95% of the greenhouse gas EFFECT. (Not just percentage by weight, but the effect it has. e.g. methane has a greater effect than CO2.

Bottom line - man contributes to about 0.28% of the greenhouse EFFECT. And for a comparison - see what marked changes occur during a period of large volcanic eruptions (on the cooling side due to ash).

The liberal’s assumption to “play it safe” by assuming the worst in global warming is also wrong. To “play it safe”, one must look at what might happen with both warming and cooling in order to anticipate problems and plan for them.

Based on previous earth temperature cycles, I believe that a cold period, probably even an “ice age” with mile high ice over Chicago is coming. Global Warming would be easier to handle than the next ice age.


6 posted on 12/02/2016 4:46:40 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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The earth is cooiing. Geez...


7 posted on 12/02/2016 4:46:58 AM PST by buffaloguy
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And green, growing rain forests are a large part of the solution.

The Sahara could bloom again, with verdant lush growth, all it needs is water. And there is reason to believe that the Sahara WAS a lush, green rain forest, not too far into the geologic past.

Just to the west of the coast of Africa, is a HUGE supply of water. Only problem, it is too saline for proper irrigation of fresh-water plant species. Short answer, desalinate the sea water, and use the desalinated water to send freshets of irrigation streams across the expanse of sand that is now there.

How to desalinate the sea water on massive scale? Proposal - build a quantity of Thorium-fueled molten-salt atomic reactors on the west coast of Morocco, and huge condensation towers. Let water in from the Atlantic into reservoirs, and heat this flow with heat emanating from the atomic reactor. As the water is vaporized, collect it in the condensation towers, and shunt the ever more concentrated brine off to the side, we will get back to it later. In large enough quantity, the distilled water collected this way will more than adequately initiate the greening of the Sahara, and where there is enough greenery, rain forests follow. Over time, decades or even centuries, the green belt will reach all the way across to Egypt, and the resulting alterations of weather patterns will continue to spread this higher moisture content even further east across the Fertile Crescent and perhaps as far as Afghanistan. Can you imagine the changes that would bring to the culture of the region?

Now getting back to this ever-growing pile of sea salt. Every element is dissolved in some measure, in sea water, the most common compound, of course, being sodium chloride.

Sodium chloride contains two very useful elements, sodium and chlorine, both of which are valuable industrial chemicals, and may be used as feedstock in the manufacture of a wide range of chemicals. It is only necessary to separate the ionic content and convert it back to elemental form.

This may be done by electrolysis, using the electricity generated by the operation of the Thorium-fueled molten salt reactors, with a portion of the energy used to generate electricity, while the “waste” heat energy is used to distill the incoming sea water. Once the sodium chloride is separated from the rest of the sea brine, (and you chemical engineers know all about crystallization differentials), the remaining brine is VERY high in potassium chloride, a valuable fertilizer component. Again separated by crystallization differentials, the other less common components of sea water, valuable industrial chemicals in their own right, may be successfully separated, even including some small portion of gold and other heavy metals, but that is merely a side product and while its recovery may help the overall economic return, by no means is the primary source of return on investment.


9 posted on 12/02/2016 5:02:36 AM PST by alloysteel (Je suis deplorable.)
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The article seems to imply that to achieve climate change goals, it’s necessary to effect a cataclysmic reduction in human population. If that’s the case, those who want to fight global warming are, perhaps unwittingly, advocates of genocide on a cosmic scale; IOW, Algore is at heart a worse mass-murderer than Adolf Hitler.


10 posted on 12/02/2016 5:03:51 AM PST by stormhill
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Behind every Warmist is an Over-populationist.

“The real problem is we’ve got too many people” is a meme being taught to our kids.

Someday, to save the Earth, one of those kids will “do something” about that.

Scary.


14 posted on 12/02/2016 5:44:31 AM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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Let us begin with the assumption that grass is the source of all cancers and heart disease. Correct or not, insanely stupid or not, let’s just give time to any old unchallenged premise as if such an exercise could possibly be worth anything other than mockery and derision...

Nah, let’s not.


15 posted on 12/02/2016 5:44:58 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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In 1875, coal-fired steam engines belching unrestricted smoke powered factories, locomotives and ships. Kitchen stoves were coal-or wood-fired, and lighting was provided by lanterns, candles or gas lamps, all of which polluted the air. Horse manure was also a major pollutant, tons of which had to be removed from city streets daily.

Do we really want to go back to that lifestyle?


17 posted on 12/02/2016 5:54:54 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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Everything you need to know about the AGW movement was stated quite clearly by the UN's top climate official in 2015:

"This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history.

"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the industrial revolution. That will not happen overnight and it will not happen at a single conference on climate change, be it COP 15, 21, 40 - you choose the number. It just does not occur like that. It is a process, because of the depth of the transformation."
--Christiane Fugueres, Executive Secretary of UNFCCC

19 posted on 12/02/2016 6:03:42 AM PST by Maceman (Screw the Party. Save the Country.)
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Careful, the next thing you know the liberals will suggest that we need to get rid of five BILLION people to 'save' the planet.

They should lead by example but you know they think THEY should be the ones who get to live.

"Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

20 posted on 12/02/2016 6:37:04 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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