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Red States and Blue States Are a Myth
National Review ^ | December 1, 2016 | Brandon Finnagan

Posted on 12/01/2016 7:34:54 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect

On Election Night 2016, I found myself at BuzzFeed’s offices in New York City. They had embarked on a bold live streaming show with the aim of mocking traditional network coverage and providing a fun, straight-to-the-point program of returns, tweets, and Millennial-centric fare. Behind the scenes, this meant practice runs of the night.

Our first trial rehearsal involved a scenario many at the time thought unlikely, if not impossible: a Trump win.

And the trial we ran, in fact, turned out to be closer to the reality of the night than any publicized election whiz’s projection.

His victory wasn’t out of the blue: The New York Times’ Nate Cohn had written about his potential to tap white blue-collar voters north of the Mason-Dixon line, I’ve spilled ink here and at The Federalist describing the changing registration patterns and untapped voters, and the Cook Political Report’s Dave Wasserman waxed about Pennsylvania’s value back in June. But it was still a shock that, after the Keystone State had tempted and ensnared so many Republicans, it was Donald Trump and his team who took it home.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


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This is a long but interesting look at long term political trends. The entire article is worth the read.
1 posted on 12/01/2016 7:34:54 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

Thanks for posting but no way I click on National Review. Never again.


2 posted on 12/01/2016 7:38:41 AM PST by KyCats
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

Trump needs to bring back American manufacturing, build a wall along the border, and reduce corporate taxation (bringing back US dollars from overseas)

Those three are critical, and I hope start on day one.

All three of those, are on the “must complete” list.


3 posted on 12/01/2016 7:38:57 AM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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I don’t read GlobalistReview.


4 posted on 12/01/2016 7:42:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect
There's really nothing new here.

What we like to describe as Red vs. Blue states doesn't reflect the biggest underlying factor in this country's liberal-conservative divide: urbanization.

Urbanization is what makes New York and California solidly blue, and has turned places like New Hampshire, Virginia and North Carolina from red to purple and (in Virginia's case) a light shade of blue. And the decline of Rust Belt cities like Detroit, Cleveland and Pittsburgh has helped the GOP capitalize on winning states like Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

5 posted on 12/01/2016 7:43:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: KyCats

https://archive.is/D2wu3

Wish more people would start doing this when posting terrible news outlets, so site traffic equals zero.


6 posted on 12/01/2016 7:43:16 AM PST by Voluntaryist
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I’ve spilled ink here and at

That's where I stopped reading, thinking this is gonna be a long screed about who knows what. Catchy title, though.

7 posted on 12/01/2016 7:50:08 AM PST by aspasia
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Obviously never been to Connecticut


8 posted on 12/01/2016 7:51:02 AM PST by gavjoe
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To: Alberta's Child

Yep. And urban places are where the bulk of globalists live, in stack and pack housing, commuting on subways to jobs in places lacking culture or identity.


9 posted on 12/01/2016 7:53:56 AM PST by MarMema (thank you President elect Trump for all you have done!!!)
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Does anyone else remember when, on election night, the news stations’ maps colored Democrat wins red and GOP wins blue? When did that change? And who decided it had to change?


10 posted on 12/01/2016 7:57:02 AM PST by Blurb2350
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t disagree, that urbanization is a factor, an important one, but it is but one factor. Policies, such as the Democrat hostility to fossil fuels, and immigration (which plays both ways) matter.

The Democrat party has hitched it’s wagon to urbanized coastal elites, only to find they are too concentrated. It is useless to run up the score in California, Illinois, and New York, and lose 30 of the other 47 states.


11 posted on 12/01/2016 7:59:44 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

Bookmark


12 posted on 12/01/2016 8:02:47 AM PST by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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you are correct but...... it is still a near thing. The voting shows the nation is almost evenly split.

With real work and a little chicanery and lots of money, the margin in the cities can be increased and then there will be a Rat win again.

The cities turn out to be populated with American enemies


13 posted on 12/01/2016 8:03:02 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Does America still have lots of safe closets?)
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

you are correct but...... it is still a near thing. The voting shows the nation is almost evenly split.

With real work and a little chicanery and lots of money, the margin in the cities can be increased and then there will be a Rat win again.

The cities turn out to be populated with American enemies


14 posted on 12/01/2016 8:03:08 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Does America still have lots of safe closets?)
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Trump wasn’t a typical republican. The typical republican runs with tax cuts (and spending cuts to meet those tax cuts) and social issues (like guns and the Supreme Court). The problem was that many people didn’t make enough money to pay any taxes or they were losing their jobs. They just weren’t interested in fair tax, flat tax or any other tax reform. They weren’t in the energy sector so drill baby drill wasn’t enough, either.

Trump comes along and tells everyone I know this other way to grow the economy besides tax cuts. It’s fixing our trade deals and immigration. Everyone else in the GOP was completely thrown off because this was not part of the Heritage/Cato/WSJ/National Review playbook. nobody ever questioned it before. It’s assumed “ok I am a conservative, I should be for cutting taxes and voting for every FTA that’s proposed no matter what”


15 posted on 12/01/2016 8:04:42 AM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: Blurb2350; fieldmarshaldj

I think prior to the 2000 election, they bounced back and forth and were different between networks. After then, the networks settled on a Red=GOP, Blue=Dem convention.

Freeper fieldmarshaldj has discussed this at length. He (correctly in my mind) believes that Red is the historical color of Socialist and Communist parties. Assigning Blue to the Democrat Party is a technique to downplay their socialist leanings. He emphatically uses Red for the Democrats.


16 posted on 12/01/2016 8:06:32 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: Blurb2350

Your question is one that I have posed on various threads throughout this and previous election cycles. You are correct in noting the the “original” maps on election nights past showed the Democrats as red and Republicans as blue. This goes back to the 1960’s. It was explained at the time that there was no symbolic correlation between the color and the parties and that the colors would be reversed from time to time. As the late 1960’s were filled with anti-war protests and race riots, the heads of the three major networks realized that there was an unfortunate and potentially fatal connection between the Democrats and the “Reds” ie., Communists. This connection was corrected in the mid-70’s, reversing the color scheme. Mindful of the subliminal reference to the Communist influence in the Democrat party, the colors have remained unchanged ever since.


17 posted on 12/01/2016 8:09:27 AM PST by T. Rustin Noone (the angels wanna wear my red shoes......)
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To: ari-freedom

“Trump comes along and tells everyone I know this other way to grow the economy besides tax cuts. It’s fixing our trade deals and immigration. Everyone else in the GOP was completely thrown off because this was not part of the Heritage/Cato/WSJ/National Review playbook. nobody ever questioned it before. It’s assumed “ok I am a conservative, I should be for cutting taxes and voting for every FTA that’s proposed no matter what”


What is interesting about trade deals and immigration is that they are completely Constitutional right from the start. They are completely under the power of the Federal government. Trump does not need to do anything unconstitutional to push his trade deals and to enforce immigration laws.

It is a beautiful thing.


18 posted on 12/01/2016 8:10:43 AM PST by marktwain
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To: bert

Yes we are split, but a truly successful presidency does help reshape the map. We know the Dems will throw chicanery and money to increase their vote. But the GOP (much to my surprise) was able to effectively get out the vote. Trump helped and had coattails, but he recognized that GOP efforts helped put him over the top.

It is not a static equation, it is dynamic, actions generate counter actions, which generate responses, etc... Each of these has differing effects and impacts upon the next election. A successful Trump presidency, like Nixon’s first term and Reagan’s two terms, makes the GOP’s task much easier.


19 posted on 12/01/2016 8:13:54 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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N8ational Review NeoCons wanting to take credit for Trump and follower’s’ success. I think NOT.


20 posted on 12/01/2016 8:18:01 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (MSM = HOME OF FAKE News)
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