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Reports: Israel attacks targets in Syria
Arutz Sheva ^ | Elad Benari

Posted on 11/29/2016 9:18:36 PM PST by Lera

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Said to be a pending weapons transfer.

41 posted on 12/01/2016 4:14:36 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Cementjungle

So they cannot transfer game-changing missiles to Hezbollah.


42 posted on 12/01/2016 4:19:34 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Cronos

If the Sunni enemies of Israel are killing the Shia enemies of Israel, and if the Shia enemies of Israel are killing the Sunni enemies of Israel, why choose to assist one side if you’re Israel.


43 posted on 12/01/2016 4:24:10 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Cementjungle

It’s Syria, everyone bombs everyone in Syria... and then blames the Jews.


44 posted on 12/01/2016 5:05:37 AM PST by Strac6 (Sig Sauer, Pilatus, Mrs. Strac... all the fun things in my life are Swiss)
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To: elhombrelibre
yes -- and Israel seems to be assisting the Sunnis.

Idiotically short-sighted.

If Assad and the Iranis win in Syria, then next there will be a stand-off in Iraq and then eastern Saudi Arabia.

45 posted on 12/01/2016 6:13:34 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

Israel fears a nuclear-armed Iran more than Saudi Arabia.


46 posted on 12/01/2016 6:20:50 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Cronos

Putin’s tight with the Iranian mad mullahs. He’s their pal.


47 posted on 12/01/2016 6:21:42 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Saudi Arabia already has nukes on speed dial readiness availability from Pakistan


48 posted on 12/01/2016 11:48:20 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: elhombrelibre

because the Shia are not a threat to him — the Sunnis are - whether in Chechnya or in Turkey


49 posted on 12/01/2016 11:49:03 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

Because of Putin’s actions in Chechnya (with his manufactured war based on his black flag operations, the investigation of which has led to many journalist dying) and Russia’s actions in Afghanistan. Face it. Russians don’t do law. They massacre without discrimination or facts, like a barbarian people without law. They love a “strong man” more than they love law. That’s why they’re doing what they doing in Syria and earning the eternal hatred of Syrians. And also consequently, they earn the wrath of whole other groups of people. It all boils down to the fact that Russians and Putin are not really Christians. They’re more full of blood lust than anyone who follows Christ’s teachings. And Putin has corrupted the Orthodox Church to get their support for him when he bombs hospitals, food convoys, evacuation services. Oh yes, I know it’s hard to believe. But Putin acts like a Nazi in Ukraine and in Syria, though really his biography indicates his true past career. He was a KGB Colonel who cashed in when Reagan beat the communist. He went on to be a statist oligarch.


50 posted on 12/01/2016 12:30:27 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Cronos
Were these folks Sunnis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

51 posted on 12/01/2016 12:36:09 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Cementjungle
Why would they bomb the Syrian Army?

Because it's been a miserable Jew-hating Communist dictatorship for decades?

Do you need to ask why they bombed Hezbollah as well?

52 posted on 12/01/2016 12:39:56 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Viyricho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: Cronos

[[Why? Out of places like Damascus that have had a Christian presence since the 1st century? You want this to be like Mosul — Christians killed and monasteries ransacked?]]

Because they are going to die if they don’t leave.
It’s not cause want them to die , nor do I want their places ransacked. It’s going to make Mosul look welcoming.

Read Isaiah 17 , that whole area is coming down.
Right now a lot of Muslims in the area are turning to Jesus . It’s an end time harvest and it is costing them their lives. A lot of them are being butchered for it. That is why the place is going to explode .

I’m involved in a ministry that takes the gospel to muslim countries but we don’t have anyone in Syria . I do hear stories coming out of their though from pastors I know in other countries that have contacts there. A lot of believers have been literally butchered in Syria .


53 posted on 12/01/2016 3:00:09 PM PST by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: Lera
"Because they are going to die if they don’t leave." --> and that's the same argument which some unscrupulous folks would suggest for Jews to leave Israel -- and I reject both of those.

Israel is Jewish land now and forever.

Similarly, Damascus, Mosul etc. are Christian for the past 2000 and the Christian presence should not leave

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What is needed is:


54 posted on 12/02/2016 1:14:12 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Lera
Isaiah 17 happened -- in the time of the neo-Assyrian superpower in 734 B.C. under Tiglath-Pilese III -->read about King of Aram, Rezin
Rezin conspired with a number of Levantine kings (e.g., Hiram II of Tyre) to rebel against Tiglath-Pileser III. Rezin's reign ended in 732 BC, when Tiglath-Pileser III sacked Damascus and annexed Aram:
In order to save his life, he (Raḫiānu) fled alone and entered the gate of his city [like] a mongoose. I [im]paled his foremost men alive while making (the people of) his land watch. For forty-five days I set up my camp [aro]und his city and confined him (there) like a bird in a cage. I cut down his plantations, [...] ..., (and) orchards, which were without number; I did not leave a single one (standing). I surrounded (and) captured [the city ...]ḫādara, the ancestral home of Raḫiānu (Rezin) of the land Damascus, [the pl]ace where he was born. I carried off 800 people, with their possessions, their oxen, (and) their sheep and goats. I carried off 750 captives from the cities Kuruṣṣâ (and) Samāya, (as well as) 550 captives from the city Metuna. Like tell(s) after the Deluge, I destroyed 591 cities of 16 districts of the land Damascus. (RINAP 1, Tiglath-Pileser III 20, l. 8’-17’)

The whole place CAME down -- 2700 years ago. Isaiah prophesised THAT.

55 posted on 12/02/2016 1:20:44 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Lera
I’m involved in a ministry that takes the gospel to muslim countries but we don’t have anyone in Syria . I do hear stories coming out of their though from pastors I know in other countries that have contacts there. A lot of believers have been literally butchered in Syria .

And they have been butchered by the jihadis sponsored by Qatar and Saudi Arabia and supported by the USA under Obama --> if the USA and Israel had intervened earlier, this slaughter would not have occurred.

56 posted on 12/02/2016 1:22:09 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: elhombrelibre
Nope, but that is not relevant to this case -- Putin faces a problem with Sunnis -- Sunnis cause the terrorist attacks in Russia, in EUrope, India, the USA -- not Shia.

Shia are bad, but Sunnis are ultra-bad.

Putin ain't no angel either -- I don't support him on many things, but on him safeguarding Christians in Syria, I am 100% for the safety of Christians.

57 posted on 12/02/2016 1:24:16 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: elhombrelibre; MarMema
To your points:

1. "Chechnya, manufactured war" -- that's not true. the north caucasus has been a problem for Russia since it conquered those peoples in the 1800s. In a way these are locals who have been there for 4000+ years and now the Slavs are invading. But the 1990 - 2000s war was not manufactured but dates back to the 1800s

2. "Russians don't do law. They massacre without discrimination or facts" -- if those are Moslems, I don't particularly care. If those are Ukrainians or other non-Moslems I do care. Call me harsh, but that's how I feel

3. "they love a strong man more than they love law" -- you mean western law. Let's be blunt -- their law is "Rossiya's interest comes first" -- and by that law, Putin hasn't broken it. I am anti-Putin when it comes to eastern Ukraine (well, actually I'm ambiguous, it's very good for Poland to have a Ukraine that hates Russia since Ukraine also hates Poland, so it will be a good buffer state rather than a Muscowite puppet) and I am pro-Putin when it comes to Syria. But basically I don't give him a blank card.

4. "Russians are not really Christians" -- huh? They've been Christians for 1000 years. Putin, I think he's a cynic but the Russian people are Christian, deeply so

5. "Putin acts like a Nazi in Ukraine and in Syria" -- reductio ad Hitlerum. Do read what the Nazis did in the bloodlands of the east. Whatever wrongs Putin has done in the Ukraine (and he's done quite a few), these are not comparable to the Nazis. More to the point of this -- Syria -- this is not "Nazi" - in what way? He's supporting a secular dictator against jihadi monsters.

6 "bombs hospitals, food convoys" -- these were used by a beseiged population -- get real. East Aleppo wasn't going to surrender as long as these basics were there. By eliminating this, Assad closes the seige and ends the war.

58 posted on 12/02/2016 1:33:06 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Cementjungle
Assad's group ain't Jew-hating. There was a Jewish community. They are Israel-hating, which is bad, but not the same. Assad's evil is strictly a secular evil -- he knew and knows that Israel is way more powerful than him.

he ain't communist either -- socialist, though more really oligarchical.

All of this doesn't make him "good" note, he's still bad, however, read my point below

This dictatorship is better than the alternative (Islamci state)_ for Israel

Why weaken an already heavily weakened enemy that is fighting a far more potent, vigorous enemy?

Both the Islamci state and assad are anti-Israel, but Assad doesn't and won't have the power to threaten Israel in any way, while the Islamic state WILL and DOES.

59 posted on 12/02/2016 1:38:11 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

Using your logic, the Germans were good Christians when Hitler was in power. You ignore the biography of a true Christian, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, when you use such logic. Being a Christian is not merely about when your country was converted to the faith. Since you seem to think Russia is Christian and Putin may not be such a bad fellow, have you ever wondered why he doesn’t end abortions there? He could do it by ukase, as he does other things he wants to do.


60 posted on 12/02/2016 2:13:02 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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