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Donald Trump’s basic position on flag-burning isn’t really all that controversial
Washington Post ^ | Nov. 29, 2016 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 11/29/2016 1:03:45 PM PST by Innovative

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To: Innovative

Flag burning should be legal. Beating the crap out of a person burning the American flag should be punishable by a fine not to exceed $25.


41 posted on 11/29/2016 3:00:15 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Wissa

It is deeper than a lack of respect for a country. It is threatening the country.


42 posted on 11/29/2016 3:24:26 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: castlegreyskull
It is deeper than a lack of respect for a country. It is threatening the country.

I don't see how the country is being threatened.

Besides burning the flag, what other acts regarding the flag should be made illegal? Flipping the middle finger at it? Would that also be threatening the country?

What should be done with organizations that openly advocate burning the flag... like the VFW does on their website?

43 posted on 11/29/2016 3:34:41 PM PST by Wissa (Few men desire liberty. Most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Hugin

Lol, what nonsense. Flag burning is not speech, but a childish and emotional hissy fit engaged in by people who express themselves through emotional outbursts and attention whore stunts.

Real free speech involves some thought and expression that can at least be heard and interpreted by whomever the protest is supposedly directed toward.

But at least you got in your silly Nazi reference in an impressive imitation of the American left.


44 posted on 11/29/2016 4:01:06 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

If the burning of the US Flag in a public place is a right protected by the courts, then one should be able to burn a Mexican Flag, Cuban Flag, Rainbow Flag or any other flag at the same public place. Or am I just mixed up about this “right”?


45 posted on 11/29/2016 4:23:56 PM PST by Bellhead
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To: ConservaTexan
Beating the crap out of a person burning the American flag should be punishable by a fine not to exceed $25.

It's tempting to think that way. In reality, it should be punished the same as somebody that beats the crap out of somebody else yelling "Lock her up!".

There is no right in the US not to be offended.

46 posted on 11/29/2016 4:53:22 PM PST by Wissa (Few men desire liberty. Most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Don’t need an amendment—just stack the USSC in your favor. How’s that for “Constitutional”.


47 posted on 11/29/2016 5:10:20 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Bellhead

But somehow, burning some of these flags will be deemed hate crimes.

Donald the Deal Maker may be trying to raise this point indirectly. If we agree to call even torching the stars and stripes a free speech, then the same goes for torching a gay flag, BLM flag, and so on. The sauce for the goose is the sauce for the gander.


48 posted on 11/29/2016 5:19:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SgtHooper

And also hope it doesn’t “stare decisis.” Which it will do, absent some new issue.


49 posted on 11/29/2016 5:20:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Will88
Real free speech involves some thought and expression that can at least be heard and interpreted by whomever the protest is supposedly directed toward.

The message of burning a flag is very clear, they hate America. As for my "silly Nazi reference" it's a comparison, not calling someone a Nazi. There are few things that are our of bounds socially now days. I could have said a Klan uniform but that's about it. The point is that some things that are legal can and should get you ostracized.

50 posted on 11/29/2016 5:21:01 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

It could also mean America is in trouble because of burning itself up, metaphorically. (Would it make a difference if the flag being burned was also right side up or upside down?)


51 posted on 11/29/2016 5:23:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TheConservativeBanker

LOLOLOL!
I’d pay to see that!


52 posted on 11/29/2016 5:25:06 PM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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To: Innovative

Instead of jeopardizing the 1st Amendment by banning flag burning, they should just make it legal to punch flag burners in the face.


53 posted on 11/29/2016 5:25:39 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: logi_cal869
Fire away.

I agree.

54 posted on 11/29/2016 5:26:02 PM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: VanDeKoik

This might cause that issue to be raised.

Donald may end up pointing out that if we agree that burning the Stars and Stripes is a free speech which may not be penalized under the constitution... then the same should go for burning any other symbol or flag. Wanna burn BLM or gay flags? We’ll regard it all the same, and no screeching about hate crimes!


55 posted on 11/29/2016 5:30:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well, where does it say free speech has to be clear? Who gets to decide? A Democrat administration? That’s just a dumb made up argument to start with.


56 posted on 11/29/2016 5:31:12 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Cementjungle

How about burning pictures of flag burners, to extend the answer in kind.


57 posted on 11/29/2016 5:34:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Will88

They are being specific.
They’re protesting “this system.”
Not “that” system.
“This” one.
The flag burners-—revcom.org-—aka the Revolutionary Communist Party-—have been burning the American flag and bawling thru a bullhorn about “this system” for over 40 years.
That’s their schtick, and they’re sticking to it.
It was one of the RCP’s leaders, Greg Johnson, who won the SCOTUS case-—see Texas v Johnson— that gave them the “right” to burn the flag.

Mr. Johnson and some of his comrades were high profile at the Rodney King riots, and more recently at Ferguson, Baltimore, NYC, Baton Rouge, etc.

The RCP idolizeS Mao and wantS to overthrow the US Constitution and replace it with a Maoist dictatorship. But of course Mr. Johnson declared his Constitutional First Amendment rights were violated when he was arrested for burning the US flag. Thus the SCOTUS case, which ended with the Court declaring flag burning to be protected speech.

Incidentally, Scalia voted with the majority.


58 posted on 11/29/2016 5:50:35 PM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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To: Innovative

I’m not in favor of allowing anything to be burned in public. Creates smelly smoke and potential for injury.


59 posted on 11/29/2016 11:42:01 PM PST by Impy (Toni Preckwinkle for Ambassador to the Sun)
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To: Innovative

H/T weaselzippers

60 posted on 11/30/2016 6:22:15 AM PST by KeyLargo
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