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Green Party Rebels Against Jill Stein: "We Do Not Support The Recount"
Zero Hedge ^ | 11/29/2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 11/29/2016 10:59:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In a letter penned by Green Party Senate Candidate Margaret Flowers, and signed by dozens of prominent GPUS members, the Greens have rebelled against the farcical "recount effort" conducted by Jill Stein, saying "while we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein."

The reason for this is that as the author notes, "as a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party."

Flowers points out that the decision to pursue a recount "was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS).  The recount has created confusion about the relationship between the Green and Democratic parties because the states chosen for the recount are only states in which Hillary Clinton lost. There were close races in other states such as New Hampshire and Minnesota where Clinton won, but which were not part of the recount. And this recount does not address the disenfranchisement of voters; it recounts votes that were already counted rather than restoring the suffrage of voters who were prevented from voting."

In the letter Flowers also makes a case for pushing with electoral college reform and demanding transformative changes which remain impossible under the current political structure:

"The Green Party cannot build the political power necessary for the transformative changes we need by allying with two capitalist parties that serve the interests of the wealthy. That is why it is imperative that the Green Party is independent of those parties. We stay independent to give people an alternative to the corruption of two money-based parties. Greens reject donations from corporations and their political action committees to ensure we are accountable to the people and so that the people’s agenda is not superseded by the corporate agenda."

The letter slamming Stein follows a similar reaction by various prominent Democrats who have also accused Stein of engaging in a "time wasting scam."

In light of the rising tide of opposition against Stein's "effort" from all sides, including her own party, it is unclear how much longer this allegedly "crowdfunded" effort will persist.

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Full letter below:

Greens Speak Out on Recount and Our Commitment to an Independent Party

We write to reaffirm our commitment to building a Green Party that has a radical analysis of the society in which we live, and promotes bold solutions to transform our society and address the root causes of those crises; a Green Party that is independent of the two money-dominated parties.

There is a deep social crisis in the US. This crisis manifests in countless ways. One of its central manifestations is through the political system. People have legitimate concerns about the electoral system, which is manipulated through wholesale voter disenfranchisement, massive voter suppression and the racist and undemocratic historical logic of the Electoral College. In all fifty states, voters from poor and marginalized communities, especially Black people and other communities of color, have their votes suppressed and are excluded from participation through various practices.

The Green Party cannot build the political power necessary for the transformative changes we need by allying with two capitalist parties that serve the interests of the wealthy. That is why it is imperative that the Green Party is independent of those parties. We stay independent to give people an alternative to the corruption of two money-based parties. Greens reject donations from corporations and their political action committees to ensure we are accountable to the people and so that the people’s agenda is not superseded by the corporate agenda.

There are significant electoral reforms needed to make elections more democratic and more representative of the people. While we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein.

The decision to pursue a recount was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS).  The recount has created confusion about the relationship between the Green and Democratic parties because the states chosen for the recount are only states in which Hillary Clinton lost. There were close races in other states such as New Hampshire and Minnesota where Clinton won, but which were not part of the recount. And this recount does not address the disenfranchisement of voters; it recounts votes that were already counted rather than restoring the suffrage of voters who were prevented from voting.

As a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party.

We remain committed to the Green Party’s four pillars and ten key values, which have at their foundation grassroots democracy. We urge the GPUS to prioritize its efforts on building our party from the bottom up, working and organizing in direct solidarity with our state and local parties and alongside and in defense of the rights of those most affected by the injustices of a capitalist, white supremacist and undemocratic system. This includes support for local efforts to prevent the disenfranchisement of people of color via voter suppression or because of felony convictions and to be more inclusive and participatory in our decision-making processes and work.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: greenparty; jillstein; recount; whoops
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not sure why Jill decided to put knee pads on now. She screwed Hillary out of an AUTOMATIC recount in Pennsylvania by running and getting 48,000 votes. THANK YOU, Jill, you stupid &*%^#! You too Johnson! Thank you for putting the kibosh on the socialist movement in the good ole US of A.


21 posted on 11/29/2016 11:16:58 AM PST by meatloaf (I am still one irritated Vet.)
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To: bigbob

wondering if they are still being and threatening ED voters to change. Wonder if the probe offers have picked in or if they think they can’t turn 37 votes.


22 posted on 11/29/2016 11:16:58 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Proudly deplorable since 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

My Greenie friend is ready to run her out of the party on a rail. He told me yesterday that if he knew that voting for Jill was voting for Hillary he would have voted for Trump. They’re not happy, these are stupid games that make the Greens look like tools.


23 posted on 11/29/2016 11:18:09 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind


I lost so badly I am pulling both the Democratic and Green Parties into oblivion ...


24 posted on 11/29/2016 11:18:25 AM PST by Scythian_Reborn
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To: All

The Green Party always considered themselves above the fray, but if they support Stein in her money grab, they can no longer claim any moral high ground.


25 posted on 11/29/2016 11:19:58 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: Emergencyawesome

Check to see if she’s bought any property in non extradition countries.


26 posted on 11/29/2016 11:24:20 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Emergencyawesome

Mama needs a new pair of shoes!!!


27 posted on 11/29/2016 11:26:12 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: day10
"the racist and undemocratic historical logic of the Electoral College" -- I must have missed this somewhere. Can someone fill me in?

Lib Speak: "I disagree with something. It must be racist."

When the only tool you have in your toolbox is a hammer, the world looks like a nail.
The only tool that the Libs/Dems have in their toolbox is the accusation of "racist!"
Imagine what their world looks like.

28 posted on 11/29/2016 11:27:45 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

$$$$$$$


29 posted on 11/29/2016 11:28:44 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: ClearCase_guy

You’re probably close to correct. I just couldn’t figure the angle.


30 posted on 11/29/2016 11:29:43 AM PST by day10 (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Life imitates comedy. This is like an SNL skit. One of the funny ones. Or something on LATMA TV, of beloved memory.


31 posted on 11/29/2016 11:32:36 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

To Clinton Camp: It was OK when Bernie won the popular vote and you won the electoral vote, but, it’s not ok now?

Whaaaaah! Whaaaaah!


32 posted on 11/29/2016 11:32:48 AM PST by Freemeorkillme (Bigly and Yuge!)
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To: meatloaf

Then Jill missed the recount filing deadline.

Now all she is left with is phony affadavits which could get the signatories charged with perjury.

Way to go, Jill!


33 posted on 11/29/2016 11:33:43 AM PST by cgbg (Pedophiles--the siren is wailing--incoming!)
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To: littleharbour
$$$ are probably the underlying cause for this idiotic maneuver, but the ‘racist!’ accusation is just standard fare for the leftists when confronted with opposition.
34 posted on 11/29/2016 11:34:06 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: day10

Pell Grants don’t cover tuition to the Electoral College.


35 posted on 11/29/2016 11:34:57 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Scythian_Reborn
Hillary’s team threatened Stein into initiating the recount scheme is my guess.

Well then it could be suicide not to.

36 posted on 11/29/2016 11:35:58 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: El Cid

The Boy Who Cried Racist

“Who you calling ‘boy,’ you racist, you!”

The End


37 posted on 11/29/2016 11:38:29 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: cgbg

... phony affadavits which could get the signatories charged with perjury.
_________________
And which also require a non-refundable $150 filing fee!!!


38 posted on 11/29/2016 11:45:10 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: SeekAndFind

“It’s not easy being Green...”

-Kermit the Frog


39 posted on 11/29/2016 11:46:14 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: SeekAndFind

Jill Stein has damaged the environmental movement by her absurd actions that appear to be based on greed and obsession with the limelight.


40 posted on 11/29/2016 11:54:32 AM PST by apocalypto
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