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HHS nominee Price opposes Obamacare, backs Medicare vouchers
Associated Press ^ | Nov 29, 2016 10:46 AM EST | Andrew Taylor

Posted on 11/29/2016 8:43:37 AM PST by Olog-hai

As a congressman, Georgia Republican Tom Price has been thwarted in his hopes to repeal the Affordable Care Act and transform Medicare into a voucher-like program for future participants.

Now, as President-elect Donald Trump’s choice to run the Department of Health and Human Services, Price will wield great power as Trump’s top health policy adviser and preside, Republicans hope, over the dismantlement of President Barack Obama’s signature health care law.

Price, 62, carries himself with a surgeon’s confidence and possesses deep knowledge of health policy. He is one of very few Republicans to actually propose a replacement for Obamacare, and promises to be a staunchly conservative voice in Trump's Cabinet. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hhs; medicare; obamacare; price; tomprice; trumpcabinet; trumphhs; trumptransition
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To: Brian Griffin
It is possible to have an insurer-managed, government-funded health care plan, which essentially is what Medicare is.

You are aware how much Medicare costs, aren't you? How will your government plan be cheaper for the government than Obamacare was?

21 posted on 11/29/2016 10:08:45 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Olog-hai

I am a great fan of standard Medicare.

It’s been helping tens of millions for 50 years.

Insurance companies, which are private businesses, can not force state governments to free up the hospital business or the medical profession.


22 posted on 11/29/2016 10:12:13 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: DoodleDawg

“You are aware how much Medicare costs, aren’t you?”

Medical care is expensive and always will be, even with effective and sound reforms.

If costs are too much, cut the military budget. Get rid of the surface Navy.

I would not like to die at age 66.

“How will your government plan be cheaper for the government than Obamacare was?”

I believe the Republican plan will be more expensive than Obamacare because it will cover just about every American and not leave 30 million+ Americans (mainly in Republican states) without coverage.


23 posted on 11/29/2016 10:24:44 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
Medical care is expensive and always will be, even with effective and sound reforms.

And how will a government plan make it less expensive?

If costs are too much, cut the military budget. Get rid of the surface Navy.

Defense is a Constitutional function of the federal government. Providing healthcare is not.

I would not like to die at age 66.

When you are 66 you will be eligible for Medicare, or it's replacement. Hang in there.

I believe the Republican plan will be more expensive than Obamacare because it will cover just about every American and not leave 30 million+ Americans (mainly in Republican states) without coverage.

And that's an improvement?

24 posted on 11/29/2016 10:32:46 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: WENDLE

If people were to be abandoned to their fate in such a way, no communists would be required for people to “hate us”.


25 posted on 11/29/2016 10:41:37 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Olog-hai

Excellent so far.

Ultimately, I’d like to get rid of HHS.


26 posted on 11/29/2016 10:46:43 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: DoodleDawg

One step at a time.


27 posted on 11/29/2016 10:48:56 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: MadIsh32

Medicare isn’t going anywhere.


28 posted on 11/29/2016 10:50:48 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

And that is a major problem


29 posted on 11/29/2016 10:52:36 AM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

Lets be realistic, he didn’t run on getting rid of medicare.


30 posted on 11/29/2016 10:53:41 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I know he didn’t.

But Paul Ryan, and now Mr. Price are 2 important people in Washington who advocate for vouchers, which ends Medicare as know it.

Medicare as we know it is an anchor on anyone under the age of 35 and a major drag on the economy.

You end Medicare as we know it, you can cut payroll taxes (start with the employer end of payroll taxes) and boom you see hiring go through the roof.


31 posted on 11/29/2016 10:55:28 AM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: DoodleDawg

“Defense is a Constitutional function of the federal government. Providing healthcare is not.”

Some history:

“An Act for the relief of sick and disabled seamen[1] was passed by the 5th Congress. It was signed by President John Adams on July 16, 1798. The Act authorized the deduction of twenty cents per month from the wages of seamen, for the sole purpose of funding medical care for sick and disabled seamen, as well as building additional hospitals for the treatment of seamen.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Act_for_the_relief_of_sick_and_disabled_seamen

Article I Section 8 gives the Congress the power to raise “armies”, including armies of doctors.

Remember MASH and ‘Captain Hawkeye Pierce’?

Dr. Constitutional might be made US Army Captain Constitutional.

I suspect Dr. Constitutional would like to sleep in his mansion rather than in an army barracks.

Government has made a mess of health care and it needs to take responsibility to fix (and pay for) the mess it has made.

Also, pre-existing condition exclusions are mainly due to
expensive drugs, which are generally expensive due to drug patents, which the Congress has the Article I Section 8 power to issue.

Congress also has the “necessary and proper” Constitutional power to deal with the pre-existing exclusion problem mess its drug Article I Section 8 (permitted but not Constitutionally required) drug patents have created.


32 posted on 11/29/2016 11:28:45 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: MadIsh32

“You end Medicare as we know it, you can cut payroll taxes (start with the employer end of payroll taxes) and boom you see hiring go through the roof.”

Employers pay a Medicare tax of about 1.45%.

Don’t expect much of a boom.

If there was no Medicare or Social Security, most Americans would only be able to retire at age 65 outside of the USA.

Guess what would happen to US-based jobs if SS and Medicare were killed off?

Social Security was passed in 1935 so old folks could retire and younger people (often out of work for many months) could get jobs.


33 posted on 11/29/2016 11:38:26 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: MadIsh32
I am all for ending Medicare, but there is so much we can get done and we need to keep our priorities straight.

We can deal with Medicare in the 2nd term.

34 posted on 11/29/2016 12:13:45 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: DoodleDawg

that’s not what you just read is it? Tell us your plan for the poor and prexisting condition and be very specific.


35 posted on 11/29/2016 12:20:07 PM PST by WENDLE (Sanctuary cities are OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE!! That is a FELONY!! Ask Nixon!!)
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To: WENDLE
that’s not what you just read is it? Tell us your plan for the poor and prexisting condition and be very specific.

What was in place pre-Obamacare. I can't be more specific than that.

36 posted on 11/29/2016 12:52:40 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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