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Hillary’s Popular Vote Holdouts on Collision Course with History
lifezette ^ | November 27, 2016 | by Laura Ingraham

Posted on 11/28/2016 9:13:13 AM PST by Jim Robinson

After complaining for months that our electoral process takes too long, now some commentators apparently want it to take even longer. Lawrence Lessig has written an article for The Washington Post saying that members of the Electoral College should ignore what they were actually elected to do, and should take it upon themselves to give the presidency to Hillary Clinton.

His argument is that since Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, she is the “people’s choice.” Other commentators have made similar claims, and given the general angst and unhappiness that fills so much of the commentariat these days, we can expect this meme to float around for years to come. So let’s clarify a few points right now:

1.) No one, including Hillary Clinton, was trying to win the popular vote. If the candidates had been trying to win the popular vote, almost everything about this election would have been different. The candidates might have picked different running mates. They might have emphasized different issues. They almost certainly would have campaigned in different states, run different commercials, and held different events. Does anyone think the Trump campaign would have largely ignored California and New York if he needed to win the popular vote? Of course not. He played under the rules as they are written in our Constitution — the same rules that governed the Clinton campaign — and he won. Trying to declare Hillary Clinton the winner because she won the popular vote is like saying that we should decide football games by which team has the most yards, or a baseball game by which team has the most hits...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; elections; electoralcollege; popularvote
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To: Baynative

“Amazon”

Yup...I’d be real comfortable knowing that a company owned by the same man who owns the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos, is counting the votes!


21 posted on 11/28/2016 9:35:50 AM PST by MaxistheBest
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To: henkster

As one post to me on another thread said. set aside Los Angeles County, CA and Cook County, IL, and Trump wins the popular vote in the country.

Set aside the above two counties and all boroughs of NYC except Staten Island and Trump wins the PV by more than 1.4 million votes.


22 posted on 11/28/2016 9:38:03 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Jim Robinson

If this happens, well...

let’s just say that pissy post-election protests, window smashing, and street fires will be like a kitchen match compared with the conflagration that would ensue.


23 posted on 11/28/2016 9:42:29 AM PST by oblomov (We have passed the point where "law," properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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To: Jim Robinson

January 20th can’t come soon enough.


24 posted on 11/28/2016 9:45:05 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: oblomov

Yes, there are many scammers.

I stick with a few trusted companies such as Coinbase.

And, of course, I keep BTC in a hardware wallet rather than an exchange.


25 posted on 11/28/2016 9:47:43 AM PST by oblomov (We have passed the point where "law," properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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To: Jim Robinson
7. The real issue is to keep stirring the pot or as liberals say "working the refs". They will use the rule of law when convenient, when inconvenient they will propagandize tirelessly against the democratic the process.

Leftists are like burglars. They are always prowling for an unlocked door or open window.
26 posted on 11/28/2016 9:50:22 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Jim Robinson

I find that “she was the peoples’ choice” comment laughable. Trump was elected by the voters of the United States of America. Hillary was selected by California.


27 posted on 11/28/2016 10:01:36 AM PST by ScottinVA
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To: ScottinVA

Hillary’s next gig is to move to California and run for governor - She’ll at least have a real big state she can govern.


28 posted on 11/28/2016 10:03:05 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

I am too old to leave and start over somewhere else, I would have to kill myself.
And take as many WETBACKS with me as possible.


29 posted on 11/28/2016 10:22:16 AM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Texas Eagle

Also all those dead people.


30 posted on 11/28/2016 10:51:35 AM PST by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: Jim Robinson

-—His argument is that since Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, she is the “people’s choice.”

She’s clearly not the “people’s choice” of the United States. But she’s very likely the overwhelming people’s choice for those voters from Mexico, Guatemala, and Somalia.

If the election process is not cleaned up, the republican party will cease to exist. http://truethevote.org/news


31 posted on 11/28/2016 10:54:53 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Baynative

great news! thanks!


32 posted on 11/28/2016 10:56:57 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Jim Robinson

of today, according to The New York Times, Hillary Clinton has 62,391,335 votes from all states. She has 1,969,920 votes from the five counties that make up New York City, and 1,893,770 votes from Los Angeles County, California. Donald Trump has 61,125,956 votes from all states, including 461,174 votes from the five counties that make up New York City, and 620,285 votes from L.A. County. In other words, Hillary beat Trump 3,863,690 to 1,081,459 in New York and L.A.; he beat her by 60,044,497 to 58,527,645 in the rest of the country. So Hillary’s margin in the popular vote rests entirely on her margin in two large cities — neither of which was contested by the Trump campaign.


33 posted on 11/28/2016 11:01:42 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through you're anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

As of today, according to The New York Times, Hillary Clinton has 62,391,335 votes from all states.

She has 1,969,920 votes from the five counties that make up New York City, and 1,893,770 votes from Los Angeles County, California.

Donald Trump has 61,125,956 votes from all states, including 461,174 votes from the five counties that make up New York City, and 620,285 votes from L.A. County.

In other words, Hillary beat Trump 3,863,690 to 1,081,459 in New York and L.A.; he beat her by 60,044,497 to 58,527,645 in the rest of the country.

So Hillary’s margin in the popular vote rests entirely on her margin in two large cities — neither of which was contested by the Trump campaign.

Bingo


34 posted on 11/28/2016 11:04:58 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through you're anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Jim Robinson

These sons of bitches would burn down the country just to achieve power.


35 posted on 11/28/2016 11:10:47 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: 5th MEB

“I am too old to leave and start over...”

Amen to that! I’m ready to turn in my cards anytime as long as I can leave a significant body-count in my front yard!


36 posted on 11/28/2016 11:36:58 AM PST by beelzepug (For English press #1; for Spanish, learn English and press #1)
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To: patriotspride

That’s funny - I was trying to think of a cycling analogy for the roadies.


37 posted on 11/28/2016 2:09:04 PM PST by Baynative ( Someone's going to have to pay for these carbon emissions, so it might as well be you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

This is exactly why we need Laura Ingraham as press secretary.

The press lies and spins Trump’s wonderful election victory into a popular vote loss - an outdated electoral system, a victory for racism, etc..

The press is so unaccountable to the truth that in one month’s time they have shifted their self-serving narrative from:

“Trump questioning the election results would be unprecedented, causing a constitutional crisis and loss of public confidence in a time-tested system” all the way to:

“Clinton questioning the election results is a bold and courageous stand against an antiquated, obsolete (and probably racist) electoral system”.

Unfortunately, the dishonesty of the press is so utter and so profound that the public can’t even conceive of such corruption - and therefore remains mostly trusting. They continue to listen, doubting some of it, but for the most part believing that what is reported is fact.

This is such a tragedy - people are not getting the truth!

When Trump drains the swamp, he first has to vanquish the lying press - but somehow do it without censorship.

I don’t know how he’s going to accomplish it, but I know appointing Laura as his press secretary would be a very good start!


38 posted on 11/28/2016 4:49:34 PM PST by enumerated
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To: MaxistheBest
You and me both. The politics of Bezos would be DQ in my mind. But the efficiency of Amazon was an example of how our elections could be flawlessly run.

My contractor preference would be Pay Pal.

39 posted on 11/28/2016 5:16:32 PM PST by Baynative ( Someone's going to have to pay for these carbon emissions, so it might as well be you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Popular vote:

In the 2000 election, had Gore won 49 states by 50,000 popular votes each and Bush had won Texas by 3,000,000 popular votes (which he did) Bush still wins.


40 posted on 11/28/2016 7:28:13 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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