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The last Communist City
City Journal ^ | Spring 2014 | Michael J Totten

Posted on 11/27/2016 3:34:29 AM PST by Rummyfan

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To: kearnyirish2

In Cuba, every one lives on $20 a month.

Except there’s nothing to buy and even traveling within the country costs six months to a year’s wages.

And all the free stuff is only a reminder of what is lacking.

Che Guevera wanted to abolish currency altogether but Castro realized the economy would grind to a complete halt without some means of economic exchange so that insane idea was nixed.

But everything else implemented left Cuba worse off and the only thing worse there is the scale of the brutal repression of tiny freedom movements on the island.

Communism has its own logic - and because it wasn’t imposed by Soviet troops makes it feel like a parody of the Latin American caudillo state.

Only caudillos didn’t care what their people did as they long as they could steal the spoils. Castro cared about what people shouldn’t do and he still managed to steal from them.

Cuba is a country trapped in a time warp in more ways than one. Its like a world time has passed by in which nothing will change. That makes all the fulsome and disgusting international praise of Castro distant from the island’s real state of affairs.


21 posted on 11/27/2016 6:47:42 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: exDemMom
In Cuba, as in Elysium, a small group of economic and political elites live in a rarefied world high above the impoverished masses.

Under socialism-communism the influential (government) become rich and powerful. Under capitalism, the rich are influential.

22 posted on 11/27/2016 6:51:41 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: goldstategop

The bottom really fell out with the collapse of the USSR, which had heavily subsidized Cuba to hide the failure. When that spigot was turned off, we started receiving many Cubans who weren’t even political refugees - they were economic refugees, and some politicians wanted to change our policy towards them (where any that reached US soil could automatically stay) to reflect that.

Blaming the US was absurd because we had an embargo, not a blockade; the rest of the world could (and did) trade with Cuba, and they simply had nothing of value to make such trade beneficial to the average Cuban.

Some of those praising Castro today point to the healthcare and education; this may have been an improvement over the Batista government but hardly compensated for everything else they sacrificed (freedom & social mobility, for instance). Like Nigeria, they now have educated people who can only find work tilling fields...


23 posted on 11/27/2016 6:53:02 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: The Great RJ
Cuba is missing a great opportunity in not recruiting all those Hollywood leftists who promised to leave the US if Trump were elected.

I agree with the thought but I've been on 3 mission trips to Cuba and have friends there. They are good people who have suffered greatly, they don't deserve Lena Dunham.
24 posted on 11/27/2016 6:53:40 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: fungoking

Like I said, Communism is great as long as you have freedom.

No one with any intelligence actually wants to live under it.


25 posted on 11/27/2016 7:02:53 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Rummyfan
but because I wanted to experience Communism firsthand

I did.

Czechoslovakia in 1972.

Four years after the Prague Spring. We could still see the bullet holes in the walls of Vaslavske Namesti (Wenceslas Square).

Walking around it was like being trapped in a black and white TV show. Lifeless. Restaurants had menus with all sorts of things, but nothing to actually order: you went down the menu until you found something they had that day.

It was obvious to me that it would never last. Humans don't live like that: there was only sadness and paranoia.

I gave it 20 years back then. There was too much filtering in from the West: magazines, records, jeans...the Communist thugs tried to hold back the tide, but they could only do so much.

I was pretty much dead on. By 1992, it collapsed.

Cuba lasted far longer because of the complicity of the filthy elites in the United States and Europe. They nullified any attempt to gut the Cuban regime. And because as noted here, it devolved into a parody of a Caudillo state. No Caudillo bothers with using an absurd ideology to legitimize himself. He just oppresses because he is The Big Man.

The dissolute and depraved Hollywood and Washington "liberals" are the ones who gave Castro oxygen. It's their crime, their disaster that left 12 million in desperation. If GW Bush had had any of the moxie he postured as, he would have dumped Fidel in an hour and freed the Cubans from their jailers.

We can't even talk about garbage like Sean Penn, Bill Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama. They see "the little people" as just backs to stand on, so they become the Big Men.

26 posted on 11/27/2016 7:11:09 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Rummyfan

bfl


27 posted on 11/27/2016 7:51:05 AM PST by gibsosa
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To: Regulator

The last Soviet ruler was an intelligent and by all accounts, a humane man.

He came to realize in the end the system could not survive without brutal repression.

When he had to make the choice between letting the system collapse and continuing with the brutal repression, he chose the former.

Someone else might have wanted to keep it going but it was clear to every one in the Soviet and East European Communist elite the writing was on the wall.

The idealism that motivated a lot of people in the the late 40s and early 50s completely evaporated by the late 80s. Faith in Communism was gone.

And the Cold War was history.


28 posted on 11/27/2016 7:52:38 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Rummyfan

I walked out of Elysium less than halfway through. I found the film’s plot incomprehensible.


29 posted on 11/27/2016 10:14:39 AM PST by Company Man (God has blessed America, again.)
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To: Rummyfan
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, authors of The Communist Manifesto, would be appalled by the misery endured by Cuba’s ordinary citizens and shocked by the relatively luxurious lifestyles of those who keep the poor down by force.

Oh please!

You think that pair of mooches would be horrified by the behavior of the Cuban rulers?

The only thing that horrified those two was the prospect of having to get an honest job.

30 posted on 11/27/2016 10:17:56 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: kearnyirish2
Blaming the US was absurd because we had an embargo, not a blockade; the rest of the world could (and did) trade with Cuba, and they simply had nothing of value to make such trade beneficial to the average Cuban.

I pointed that out to an American-Cuban. He looked like I had hit him with a board.

The narrative in Cuba is that their lack of ( fill in the necessity here ) was because of the US embargo.

He never questioned it even after living in the US for years. It was so deeply ingrained that it was like questioning the existence of God.

I pointed out that Canada, Mexico, Europe, almost every South American country traded with Cuba. There is nothing that they do not produce that is produced exclusively in the US.

So the idea that the US embargo is the cause of any lack in Cuba is a total lie.

After he got though being stunned he got very angry. Not that he had been lied to by the Cuban government, he expected that, but that the American media and schools pushed that narrative as well.

31 posted on 11/27/2016 10:32:05 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

That’s right; OUR media lied to him.


32 posted on 11/27/2016 12:36:53 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
You would think that someone who had heard propaganda before would be cynical about the US media. But the US was so much better then what he left that he just assumed that the media was more or less honest.

I almost hated to disillusion him.

33 posted on 11/27/2016 5:01:07 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

That’s a good point; as we were the “anti-Cuba”, he probably assumed we didn’t have liars in the media...


34 posted on 11/28/2016 3:46:01 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
Or if they did they would lie to make the US look better.

The idea that they would lie to make the US look worse does not make sense to him. Shouldn't they love their country and want their side to win?

It would sort of be like finding out that Ernie Pyle was sending back false reports of Japanese victories and US "war crimes". It is just unthinkable.

35 posted on 11/28/2016 12:17:17 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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