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‘Fake News’ Isn’t Just a Rightwing Problem
National Review ^ | 11/25/16 | Ian Tuttle

Posted on 11/25/2016 3:38:23 AM PST by randita

‘Fake News’ Isn’t Just a Rightwing Problem

The mainstream media is not entirely innocent of the propagation of gossip, rumors, and conspiracy theories.

By Ian Tuttle — November 25, 2016

Following Donald Trump’s upset victory earlier this month, the media has suddenly grown deeply troubled about the proliferation of “fake” news — gossip-mongering and fabrication and “news” reports devoid of a factual basis. Naturally, this brings us to Vox.com.

On Tuesday, the know-it-all whiz-kids that brought readers the Gaza Bridge published, “Democrats Won the Most Votes in the Election. They Should Act Like It.,” a column by whiz-kid-in-chief Ezra Klein. “More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than for Donald Trump. More Americans voted for Democratic Senate candidates than for Republican Senate candidates. So why aren’t Democrats acting like it?”

Presumably because those facts don’t mean what Klein thinks they mean.

Start at the top. It’s true that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, making Donald Trump the fifth candidate to lose the popular vote but win the White House (or sixth, depending on how you slice 1960). But her small winning margin does not indicate much more than a close race. Klein well knows that presidential candidates don’t campaign everywhere; they spend their time in swing states, where the margins of victory are likely to be slim. If Trump had spent much more time in Texas or Mississippi, presumably he could have run up his vote totals. There’s certainly a case to be made that Donald Trump should govern with humility, but his popular vote loss is only a small part of that case.

That is about as much as Klein employs in the way of facts. Take, for example, his claim that Democratic Senate candidates outpolled Republican Senate candidates. So what? It’s the Senate. It’s 100 separate races. And, of course, it’s never actually 100 separate races, because the reelection calendar is staggered. This year, it was 34 races with wildly different dynamics in states with very different populations — e.g., neither Texas senator was up for reelection — that’s 3 million GOP votes that don’t factor into Klein’s calculations — and the contest to replace Barbara Boxer in California had no GOP candidate, but two Democratic candidates. Klein’s statistic is convenient, and meaningless.

Finally, it seems Klein also originally rested his thesis on Democrats’ popular-vote victory in House races — which, as he notes in a correction, didn’t actually happen: “Republicans are up by about 3.6 million [in total House votes], and while votes are still being counted, Democrats look unlikely to close that gap.”

Ezra Klein’s misapplied mathematics are hardly surprising, this being the outlet that once suggested that Boulder, Colo., had 102 toilets for every resident. But it’s all a bit rich, given the circumstances.

Millions of rightwing partisans believe dumb things: that Barack Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim, for example, or that Hillary Clinton has secretly carried on a years-long lesbian romance with her aide-de-camp. Remember Operation Jade Helm? And, indeed, over the last year, InfoWars and the Drudge Report and Jim Hoft’s Gateway Pundit blog have all pulled in record amounts of traffic, despite peddling demonstrably untrue stories as cold, irrefutable fact.

But the Left has its own nonsense. How many liberals still believe that George W. Bush “stole” the 2000 presidential election? Jonathan Chait of New York Magazine, hardly a denizen of the fever swamps, was declaring the 2000 recount stolen as recently as last month. And if you want fever swamps, consider a 2006 Scripps Howard poll found that half more than half of registered Democrats believed George W. Bush was complicit in the September 11 terrorist attacks, with respondents split about evenly between calling Bush’s involvement “very likely” and “somewhat likely.”

There’s a connection between the two. As “elite” media figures know, stories — true and false — trickle down, implanting themselves in the minds of hundreds of thousands or millions of citizens too busy or too lazy to do their own research. When Vox writes, “The election probably wasn’t hacked. But Clinton should request recounts just in case,” it’s legitimizing a seed of doubt.

It’s no surprise, then, that Paul Krugman — Princeton economist, New York Times columnist, Nobel laureate — spent Tuesday night on Twitter calling for an “independent investigation” of election results, based on a New York Magazine report that a handful of “prominent computer scientists and election lawyers” think results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania “may have been manipulated or hacked.” There’s no meaningful evidence to support that charge, as the Times’ Nate Cohn immediately pointed out, but it’s now an active point of discussion on cable news.

Where are the lines dividing “fake” news from real? Why was voter fraud a rightwing “conspiracy theory” when conservatives push it, but an urgent matter of electoral transparency now that it’s coming from liberals? Why are right-wingers fabulist nuts, but left-wingers devotees of triumphant Reason? And when Ezra Klein neglects the context that effectively invalidates his thesis, is it a mistake or a lie — or “fake” news?

A more responsible media wouldn’t create the confusion in the first place.

— Ian Tuttle is the Thomas L. Rhodes Fellow at the National Review Institute.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; fakenews; liberalmedia; media

1 posted on 11/25/2016 3:38:23 AM PST by randita
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To: randita

All of this claptrap demonstrates the adage that the sky is blue because I say it is blue. It all depends upon whose ox is being gored.
There is no one righteous enough to determine the objective truth in any much less every incident of truth telling. It is what it is.
Professional news hounds lie and distort. That is their privilege. Our, their readers, role is to take up their sword as brave truth tellers or slap them down as yellow publicists. That is our role.
It is all fake. Scrape out what truth you are able. So it is. Get on with it.


2 posted on 11/25/2016 3:52:34 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: randita

There are two kinds of news. Organic news is something like when a car hits a truck. There are details to be reported, and it is hard to fake. These events are normally reported accurately.

Synthetic news is manufactured news and it is agenda driven news. A recent example is when some kid recently gave a Nazi salute in a hotel in Washington, and President Elect Trump did not disavow the kids action quickly enough for the agenda driven media, so therefore Trump and all of Trumps people are supportive of white nationalism. This story actually dominated the CNN news day just a couple of days ago.

By their shear volume of reporting, and their agenda driven news practices, the left owns the fake news industry. They practice it daily, just listen to NPR or watch CNN, if you can.

Fake news is a leftist problem.


3 posted on 11/25/2016 4:09:12 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRISON, 2020!)
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To: randita

Dan Rather and Brian Williams were unavailable for comment.


4 posted on 11/25/2016 4:25:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: randita

for later


5 posted on 11/25/2016 4:53:41 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Snake mean and turkey stupid.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

NPR, to their credit, did an HONEST interview with a major “fake news” player. This guy operates dozens of phony web pages, and has dozens of writers coming up with false stories, pretending to be news.

The 40 year old, was a Democrat Hillary supporter, who fell into the job, when he was searching for a way to make money off of (in his characterization) gullible Trump supporters. His formula, was to find a narrative that plays into the bias of Trump supporters and then tell outrageous lies on that theme. His biggest hit, was the story that an FBI agent looking into emails was found murdered. He seemed to have some ethical recriminations, but he said “liberals are too smart to fall for fake news stories.”
As you know, google has pay per click ad revenue models, that helped to make this guy rich. He will continue to generate fake stories, because if he does not, someone else will.


6 posted on 11/25/2016 5:00:03 AM PST by mission9 (It is by the fruit ye shall know.)
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To: mission9
NPR, to their credit, did an HONEST interview with a major “fake news” player. This guy operates dozens of phony web pages, and has dozens of writers coming up with false stories, pretending to be news.


Yes, I get the liberal media's definition of fake news. However, if they were not disengeneous, they would also have interviewed Wolf Blitzer, of CNN and their own staff for their contributions to the fake news industry. NPR is very biased.
7 posted on 11/25/2016 5:30:17 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRISON, 2020!)
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To: randita

Fake news propagators learn well from the major players. Don’t think for a moment that confusion, anarchy, pride, greed, and lust are going to take a rest. Reader beware!


8 posted on 11/25/2016 5:42:55 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Lock. Her. Up.)
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To: randita

The real issue is, Who is going to determine whether the news is fake? The consumer, or some leftist controlled near monopoly like Google?


9 posted on 11/25/2016 5:47:53 AM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: randita
You see it doesnt count if it comes from the Left because "fake but accurate" is now their journalistic standard.
10 posted on 11/25/2016 6:01:38 AM PST by Stopthethreat
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To: randita

FAKE NEWS! GET YER FAKE NEWS RIGHT HERE! READ ALL ABOUT IT! EVERYTHING IS FAKE! TRUTH ARE LIES, LIES ARE TRUTH! CONFUSION IS REALITY! FAKE NEWS! GET YER FAKE NEWS HERE!


11 posted on 11/25/2016 6:09:59 AM PST by Awgie (Truth is always stranger than fiction.)
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To: randita
Tuttle could have provided more recent examples of MSM "fake news":

Trump and his supporters are fascists.

Trump is comparable to Hitler.

Trump is a hard-core racist, and that is the center of his appeal.

Trump mocked a reporter's disability.

The Bush administration "outed" Valerie Plame to "punish" her husband.

It is proven through empirical scientific research that CO2 is the main driver of global warming.

Massive Muslim immigration poses no threat to Western Civilization.

The list could go on and on, and note that these are generally more important topics than where Obama was born, whether Hillary has undisclosed health problems, or whether Hillary had a lesbian relationship with Huma Abedin,
12 posted on 11/25/2016 7:32:43 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: mission9
I doubt that the "fake news" stemming from obscure web sites has little overall effect, since those who believe the stories without verification are people who are already prone to believe them. Fake news stemming from the MSM is much more powerful.

On FR, stories proven to be fake are deleted by the mods. Other controversial or debatable stories are - well - debated, with some believing them, some rejecting them, and others deferring judgment. But it's not as if the stories just go out there unquestioned, with everyone believing them, in the so-called "conservative echo chamber" the media love to talk about.
13 posted on 11/25/2016 7:40:15 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: randita

So how would the Left handle this news;

“Today President Obama repeated the promise of ‘If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor’”


14 posted on 11/25/2016 8:33:43 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"I doubt that the "fake news" stemming from obscure web sites has little overall effect, since those who believe the stories without verification are people who are already prone to believe them."

One of my typical typos. It should say:

"I doubt that the "fake news" stemming from obscure web sites has MUCH overall effect."
15 posted on 11/25/2016 8:58:15 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: randita
The "fake news" meme is itself the MSM's dishonest way of trying to claim that a few questionable anti-Hillary stories on obscure web sites somehow overwhelmed the MSM's incessant, daily stream of anti-Trump stories, viewed by tens of millions of people.

Is the MSM willing to say that it is so ineffective that it's message was drowned-out by a few sites that most people never heard of? If they believe that, they ought to inform their advertisers that they are paying way too much.
16 posted on 11/25/2016 9:19:11 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: randita

It is a right wing problem to this extent; every truthful thing you say about leftists or their policies will be declared fake news or as debunked.


17 posted on 11/25/2016 12:26:29 PM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Louis Foxwell

By politicizing the news, the media has forfeited its credibility. Bloggers figure that if the mainstream media lies, why not balance it with our own lies? If I have to listen to biased reporting, I’d see the bias toward what I believe rather than be constantly berated as an inbred moron.


18 posted on 11/25/2016 7:05:02 PM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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