Posted on 11/23/2016 9:01:23 PM PST by kevcol
Advocates of public education in the United States have worried that President-elect Donald Trump would tap an education secretary who would speed up the privatization of public schools, a move that many fear could destroy America’s public education system, the country’s most important civic institution. Well, they were right about the appointment — and then some.
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Seen by her supporters as a tireless, driven supporter of school choice, opponents say she is the most ideological and anti-public education nominee ever to be put forward to run the the nearly 40-year-old department.
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The Crown Heights charter schools prove that wrong.
Same kids, same demographics, no picking and choosing as the slots are awarded by lottery.
And yet the kids in the charter school shine and those in the public school do not.
I know it is fashionable to blame the students but a good 75% at least is the teachers and their methods.
You’re damn right I don’t want the “riff-raff” at my child’s school. You can play all sorts of social engineering games with your children. Leave me and mine alone.
Add in Khan academy and a few other resources, and there is no need for this outdated monolithic education model.
Can the kids be kicked out if they sell drugs in school or start fires?
If the latter, then it has already been selective.
I don’t blame the kids, I blame the parents. If you can’t get your kid through at least elementary school, no matter how bad the teachers, you failed.
No, sorry, not any more selective then saying that the kids who go to public school are those who's parents wake them up.
A distinction without a difference.
If you can’t get your kid through at least elementary school, no matter how bad the teachers, you failed.
So with the two hours a night you have with your kids your are suppose to undo all the harm done to them all day.
O-kay.
No, you don’t understand. We can’t kick them out anymore. We can’t even suspend them. They can do pretty much anything. And they know it.
Women fought to get "the same educational opportunities" as men by making schools coed, and then complained that methods used to teach boys were unfair to girls. Funny, I don't hear any complaint from these caring public servants now that a generation of boys have been neutered and turned off from education. The U of Georgia, which my daughter attends, is now more than 60% female. Where's the worry about inequity now?
You do have a point about the dangling of the dollar, but that never happened where I went through Catholic School. Just wasn’t done. Football was the “dangler.” Huge money maker in high school. I HATE football to this day; although my brother was a great player.
If the religious schools have a crack at vouchers that could change your scenario I would think. And magnent schools, as long as there is a core Western Civ requirement would also.
Most straight, conservative men NEVER wanted to teach young children. And they have abdicated from teaching the older ones because it doesn’t pay enough. Don’t pretend manly men don’t teach because the schools won’t hire them. The schools fall over themselves trying to get male teachers. But the only ones who apply are liberals. Conservative men have always ignored the warning about “the hand that rocks the cradle.”
Hey, I hope so. I’m just trying to warn you, if you have a kid in private school, and they start getting an influx of kids from the public schools, and your kid start telling you that “things have changed and not for the better” ... please, listen to them.
Previous to busing due to Sheff, was something called *Project Concern*; maybe that is what you are talking about. I was teaching in Newington, during that time; minority [mostly black kids] were bused into suburbia. As I recall, the bused kids were grades below the ‘burb kids. Getting them to sit still was a challenge, aside from the lack of simple social skills. At the end of the day, whatever skills they obtained during their 6 hour stay, were lost b/c the went right back into their jungle environment.
I doubt what benefit it all was, except some social engineers feeling good about themselves for a while.
The cultural divide was wide and deep; and I wondered if it didn’t do more harm than good; b/c the bused kids saw/observed families with a mother & father; classmates with nicely kept hair and clothing; vacations spent traveling with family, nice neat homes with big yard and crime free neighborhoods, etc. That had to have had some influence on the bused children.
Impressing the urban children that they were from the *other side of the tracks*. Sometimes when you don’t *know* something...you learn to live with your lot in life. If Project Concern did any good, it opened urban kids eyes, to what could be, if personal effort was made.
No.
You can’t even hold them back a year if they are failing the grade. Can’t keep them after school for extra help or disciplinary reasons.
The legal ramifications of *kicking* a kid out would be squashed immediately by the admin.
Unless you are a white kid, and you made a *finger gun* gesture.
Oh OK, I knew he was involved somehow. FDR is the one said it. JFK ignored it and went ahead and ordered it.
Trump should cancel that executive order also.
Isn’t it ironic that the Dept of Ed may be the catalyst for the undoing of the public school system in this country? Had it been dismantled by a conservative administration or never established in the first place, school districts would have successfully operated under local control as they had since the 19th century, and would undoubtedly continue to do so in perpetuity. In fact, it is the over reaching and agenda-driven federal government which will be the demise of the public school system in America.
Are you inundated by an infux of non-Engish speaking kids?
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