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Trump nominates conservative activist Betsy DeVos as education secretary
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Posted on 11/23/2016 10:20:12 AM PST by hotsteppa

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To: Vlaxo

Yeah, the private schools will quickly toss the bad kids out, as will the charter schools (that’s what the charters do now). Since every kid is guaranteed an appropriate education, where do the tossed out kids go?


61 posted on 11/23/2016 11:03:39 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: PIF

What does school choice mean? Another words what exactly would the plan be let’s just say if you had your way when it comes to schools? This isn’t a trick question I’m legitimately interested in knowing what school choice means when put into practice


62 posted on 11/23/2016 11:03:50 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: bgill

Good news. You and the others opposing DeVos are on the same side as Democratic Underground. Congrats.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141623601


63 posted on 11/23/2016 11:04:51 AM PST by guido911 (Please ss)
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To: Vendome

amway products in the white house!


64 posted on 11/23/2016 11:06:42 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Proudly deplorable since 2016)
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To: Black Agnes

Did I not say if the report is accurate?

De Vos is effective in advocating for School Choice. How is that bad?

As for her support for Common Core, when did she support it? What year? Does she still support it? Why did she support it?

AND WHY SHOULD ANYONE CARE NOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NO LONGER FUNDS IT?

I suppose it would make conservatives feel all warm and gushy if Trump brought in a Common Core slayer but what purpose NOW would it serve? It’s no longer a federal issue.

The only way Trump could break his campaign promise is if he calls for renewed FEDERAL FUNDING of Common Core.

You think he will do that? I don’t. In fact, I would bet on it.

What about closing down the Educ Dept? De Vos is a billionaire, what she got to lose if she works herself out of a job?

And what about Trump’s campaign promises to the inner cities?

Every informed conservative following educational issues in this country knows that SCHOOL CHOICE is the rescue and escape plan for kids and students in the inner cities. For most of them, it is their only hope to escape the hell they are trapped in.

And who is a strong and effective advocate for SCHOOL CHOICE?

Yep, Trump is playing his hand well. He knows what he’s doing.


65 posted on 11/23/2016 11:08:11 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: KavMan

The Florida anti-common core group specifically does not want her: “we fear President-Elect Trump may nominate a pro-Common Core Secretary of Education like Tony Bennett, Michelle Rhee, or Gerard Robinson”


66 posted on 11/23/2016 11:08:58 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: conservative98

That should cover Levin from not moaning.


67 posted on 11/23/2016 11:11:44 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: oh8eleven
Doesn’t Betty De Vos support COMMON CORE?
Maybe so, but her boss doesn't.

He's flipped on every other position, I'm guessing he'll flip on this one too.

68 posted on 11/23/2016 11:13:04 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Black Agnes

A conservative version of common core might work, but the bigger issue may be the federal role in education vs states rights.


69 posted on 11/23/2016 11:15:12 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: snarkytart

It means what it says, instead of kids having to go to the designated public school in their district, they can chose to go to a for-profit school of their choice anywhere. Instead of taxpayers financing your kid’s education, you do. Instead of your kid learning to protest, learning faux US and world history, leaning that Democrat leaders know best, they learn real history and to be responsible, think for themselves, to acquire life long habit of reading books, and so forth.


70 posted on 11/23/2016 11:16:27 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Hostage

She campaigned against Michigan’s ballot effort against common core.

Lately.

If you put someone who heavily supports common core in charge of fedgov what do you think will happen to fedgov’s support of common core?


71 posted on 11/23/2016 11:26:39 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: hotsteppa

American Federation for Children info

http://afcgrowthfund.org/about-us/leadership/


72 posted on 11/23/2016 11:26:56 AM PST by Degaston
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To: Russ

LOL!


73 posted on 11/23/2016 11:28:08 AM PST by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: hotsteppa; wintertime; metmom

I don’t know about this lady, but I did read many books from 25 years ago on the ‘Education Wars’ back then.

So, for what it’s worth here, I’ll try to DEBUNK a few things about Common Core:

First, for people that were reading about the state of education 25 years ago - books such as Thomas Sowell’s Inside American Education, the first thing we noticed about Common Core is that it was NOTHING NEW. Virtually all the bad things about Common Core (Whole Language Reading, math by Calculators and ‘spiraling’, etc.) already existed and was widespread long before “Common Core” existed. Likewise, get rid of Common Core, and that crap isn’t going anywhere, because it’s not Common Core that brought this crap, it was the teachers and others that brought it. Here in Texas, we don’t have Common Core...but you’d never know it by looking at the material. As long as we let ‘them’ (i.e., the bunch with ‘Education’ degrees) run our classrooms, we’ll have this crap, regardless of what ‘they’ call it (and yes, ‘they’ will morph the name once it gets discredited, such as Whole Language >> Sight Words). In fact, in pointing out the above several times here, I’ve noted that Common Core did us the favor of painting a nice big target on this crap...but it’s nothing new.

The REAL VICTORY for our side is on the funding side - get rid of the direct funding from government to ‘them’ and make ‘them’ have to compete with others teaching traditionally, and ‘they’ become powerless - that is where the real battle has to be fought. That is where ‘they’ will fight to the death.

So, personally, I think the left will go nuts. For them Common Core made life easier, as they no longer had to coordinate the destruction of our education system through the 50 states...they just did it out of DC, but the BIG PRIZE is starving them of money, since they will wither on the vine at that point.


74 posted on 11/23/2016 11:28:37 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

There’s no ‘may be’ there.


75 posted on 11/23/2016 11:28:42 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Stars&StripesNE
Common Core is the worst gobblygook to hit the educational system.

Common core is also a state level initiative, there are limits to what a Trump administration can do to end it without creating a whole new federal bureaucracy.

76 posted on 11/23/2016 11:30:12 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: guido911

Their opposition to DeVos has nothing to do with her rabid support of common core.

But carry on disparaging those on the right. It will make friends and impress people.


77 posted on 11/23/2016 11:31:40 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Tucker39

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78 posted on 11/23/2016 11:33:40 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

If she does she will have to get used to saying “Common Core is no more” because that’s what her boss will demand.


79 posted on 11/23/2016 11:36:38 AM PST by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by a unicorn.)
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To: Black Agnes

That’s state level funding advocacy. You need to study the details why she was doing that. It was a ploy by leftists to grab state funds for another purpose and to attack the curriculum development of Charter Schools. School Choice was caught in the crosshairs.

She was for School Choice and vouchers. She was aiming for Common Core funds to be directed to those ends.

It’s about the money! It’s not about the indoctrination.

Common Core is NO LONGER a federally funded program.

So what’s her involvement in Michigan got to do with a federal post? She won’t have any funds for Common Core.

Are you saying Trump is going to call for renewing the funding of Common Core?

Is that what you’re saying?

Because if you’re not saying that, then you’re carrying the water for the left to divide and turn conservatives against Trump.

The only leg you got to stand on is if Trump will fund Common Core.

And he’s not bringing her in to do any Common Core crap. She’s all about School Choice which if you knew anything about inner city edication politics, is poison to the left and its teacher unions.


80 posted on 11/23/2016 11:37:12 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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