Report: Presidential electors planning to undermine Electoral College

The Hill ^ | 11/22/2016 | Harper Neidig

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

A number of Democratic Electoral College electors are planning to use their votes to undermine the election process in opposition to President-elect Donald Trump, Politico is reporting.

Some electors are lobbying their Republican counterparts to vote for someone other than Trump in an attempt to deny him the 270 votes required to elect him, according to the news outlet. They are also contemplating whether to cast their votes for someone other than Hillary Clinton

With at least six electors already vowing to become "faithless," the defection could be the most significant since 1808, when six Democratic-Republican electors refused to vote for James Madison, choosing vice presidential candidate George Clinton instead.

The electors acknowledge that it is unlikely that they will be able to block Trump from gaining office, Politico reported, but they are optimistic that their effort will raise enough questions about the Electoral College to reform or abolish it.

"If it gets into the House, the controversy and the uncertainty that would immediately blow up into a political firestorm in the U.S. would cause enough people — my hope is — to look at the whole concept of the Electoral College," one of the electors told Politico.

It’s unclear how many, if any, Republicans have signed on to the effort.

Twenty-nine states legally require their electors to obey the results of the popular vote in their state.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Ahhh, the State of my birth! Weaned on the “milk” of the UAW.

No call yet because of that very same UAW. They are still looking for uncounted votes in Day-twah. Sadly, they will come up short because the out-side counties have provided enough votes to cancel Wayne county.

Look at the results of typical UAW counties such as Calhoun, Jackson, Gennessee and Saginaw which all usually turn blue. Gennessee is purple these days.

[Altura Ct.]

They really do want to start a war.

[unread]

"Figures there was a Clinton involved..."

:)

[Typical_Whitey]

You do know if it wasn’t for Republican never trumps Evan Mcmullin Trump wins MN too. His electoral win is landslide by every measure, do these people want civil war?

[Hostage]

The state laws are based on bribery. Whether bribery is being done or not, the states having the law in place will replace any Elector who votes against the state.

But it does not matter to the result the left seeks because Congress has the final say.

“January 6, 2017”

“The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes.”

“If a State submits conflicting sets of electoral votes to Congress, the two Houses acting concurrently may accept or reject the votes. If they do not concur, the votes of the electors certified by the Governor of the State on the Certificate of Ascertainment would be counted in Congress.”

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/key-dates.html

Here are comments regarding Electors receiving death threats to change their votes:

“Michigan law requires the state’s 16 electors to cast their votes for the presidential candidate who wins the majority of voters, said Secretary of State spokesman Fred Woodhams.”

“Even if Banerian or another elector had a change of heart, other Michigan electors would just cast another vote for Trump, according to the Secretary of State’s office.”

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/17/elector-threats/94003176

More commentary here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3497225/posts?page=128#128

[Nifster]

You forgot to include your sarcasm designator

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

:: You forgot to include your sarcasm designator ::

Did I? Was I being sarcastic? I did not know it was a requirement.
See you on the flip-side.

[Hostage]

Here are some leads:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3497225/posts?page=165#165

Note the reference to the role of Congress.

For further research on state laws that stop this nonsense, check with the SOS in each of the Blue States that went for Trump.

The bottomline is these knuckleheads have no chance of pulling this off.

Politico is pushing this nonsense to create sensational headlines and because their survival depends on it. They are destined to close up shop soon unless they can get a progressive billionaire to prop them up after the fed govt stops buying their worthless product. But they don’t have a subscriber base worthy of investment because most of their subscribers are fed govt offices or fed contractors who were told to purchase to prop up a progressive organ of the state.

I posted links to Politico’s dependency on fed govt subscriptions last year. There are also links to Donald Trump saying Politico will fail.

This is Politico’s rant and nonsense thinking they can somehow create momentum to overturn the election and keep their worthless jobs.

As for Lazamataz’ sentiment of wanting names and details of the criminals making these threats, I agree. They should be investigated, arrested and made examples of so that future knuckleheads will think twice of the consequences before pulling this crap.

The criminals pulling this stunt are not smart. They are not aware of state laws that would stop this in its tracks and they are not aware of Congress’ role in certifying the Electoral College votes. See the link above in this post for more details and reference links.

[metmom]

Anyway, it’s good to take this ploy to God in prayer.

Words of wisdom.

[dp0622]

Thanks for the link. Must read it.

I have NO IDEA what the truth is with electors what with all the news going around.

What you said about Politico is astonishing, to say the least!!

But I believe you.

AND OF COURSE EVERY call or tweet or whatever should be tracked down and the person arrested.

The electors should have protection for themselves and their children/wives/husbands.

But obama is too busy giving medals to Kareem or being brave in the face of musilm oppression...vomit

[Iron Munro]

I guess they want to find out for themselves why gun and ammo sales have been setting new records since Obama was elected.

[Nifster]

Indeed

[Candor7]

Is this legal???!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Its a state mater. In some states it would be illegal and in others, well they have no restrictions. It depends on the voting legislation of each state.

[doug from upland]

http://www.fairvote.org/faithless_electors

Not all states have punishment for faithless electors. I suspect that local party operatives chose them.

[fwdude]

Won’t happen, just noise from agitprop sore losers

And when it doesn't happen, they'll stamp their feet, hold their breaths, and burn a few dozen more cars.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"choosing vice presidential candidate George Clinton instead."

Everyone is missing the biggest news item in this article.



The king of funk used to be in politics and was almost our first black president. Who knew?

[Elsie]

Here ya go!

Hold onta yer scarf!!

[Jrabbit]

Rush thinks it’s possible.....had many people he admires tell him it’s not going to happen, but he doesn’t believe them.

[Elsie]

Just not THEIR’s!

[Elsie]

Sep 18 2016 WP article that Democrats SUPPORTED Electoral College...

Before they didn't...

"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."