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Russians Blame MiG-29K Crash on Broken Arrestor Cable, Catastrophic Engine Failure
USNI News ^ | November 21, 2016 | Sam LaGrone

Posted on 11/22/2016 3:04:39 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

A combination of faults on Russia’s carrier and an unexpected total engine shutdown led to a Russian pilot ditching his fighter in the Mediterranean Sea last week, read a translation of a Monday Russian press report.

The Mikoyan MiG-29K that crashed on Nov. 13 was part of a trio of fighters sortied from Russian carrier Admiral Kuznetsov for operations over Syria, USNI News reported last week.

Following the mission – armed reconnaissance runs over targets near Aleppo, USNI News understands — the fighters headed back to the carrier to land, read a translation of a report from Gazeta.ru.

“Upon completion of their flight missions, the fighters were returning to the aircraft carrier. In this situation, landings were to occur with an interval of three-to-four minutes,” read the translation.

“The first fighter landed without incident.”

However, the second fighter snapped one of the arresting wires during landing with the hook eventually catching on reserve arresting cable, the report said.

With the deck fouled from the cable break, the third MiG – which was on approach closely behind the second fighter – was told to circle back into a holding pattern while the crew of Admiral Kuznetsov cleared the deck for the next landing.

“While in the holding area, both of the fighter’s engines shut down,” read the translation. “A preliminary explanation is that they were no longer receiving fuel. ln such situations, a fighter falls like a rock, and the pilot has only one option — to eject.”

NATO ships monitoring the carrier offered assistance that was declined by the Russians, a NATO official told USNI News last week.

Following last week’s crash, the Russians continued operating fighters from Admiral Kuznetsov and used planes from the carrier to strike targets held by rebels opposed to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced last week.

The Kremlin has attempted to improve Russian carrier aviation over the last few years after decades of atrophy.

“A few years ago there were stories they were largely contractors as pilots,” Eric Wertheim — naval analyst and author of U.S. Naval Institute’s Combat Fleets of the World — told USNI News on last week. “They’ve been trying to pass that skill on but there’s not the ability to do that because the pool is small and they’re not a lot of facilities available.”

A land-based facility to train Russian naval aviators that was set to open in 2015 has been continually delayed.

The carrier – technically an aircraft carrying guided missile cruiser – is part of a four ship Russian naval force that deployed to the Eastern Mediterranean that includes cruiser Peter the Great and two Udaloy-class guided missile destroyers. The surface action group is also operating with one of Russia’s newest frigates — Admiral Grigorovich – that launched cruise missiles as part of the Russian offensive against targets in Aleppo.

As of Monday morning, the ships were operating south of Cyprus, a U.S. defense official told USNI News.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: admiralkuznetsov; carrier; mig29k; navair; russia

MiG-29 K taking off in 2012.

1 posted on 11/22/2016 3:04:39 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

In fairness the US Navy crashed a lot of planes on the USS Langley back in the 20’s and 30’s learning how to do carrier operations.


2 posted on 11/22/2016 3:11:59 AM PST by ARGLOCKGUY
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ran out of fuel? They don’t have refueling capability?


3 posted on 11/22/2016 3:13:45 AM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Double engine failure due to fuel starvation. Too much air in the fuel tanks?


4 posted on 11/22/2016 3:16:20 AM PST by wrench
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To: wrench

Rookie mistake


5 posted on 11/22/2016 3:36:28 AM PST by KOZ.
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To: csvset
Ran out of fuel? They don’t have refueling capability?

Not on their carriers, no.

6 posted on 11/22/2016 3:53:22 AM PST by Lower Deck
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To: rlmorel

ping


7 posted on 11/22/2016 4:36:11 AM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Took too long to fix the cables.


8 posted on 11/22/2016 5:22:30 AM PST by polymuser (There's a big basket of deportables.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Probably took off with a minimum fuel load in order to carry more ordinance. Didn’t leave very much reserve fuel in the event their landing was delayed.


9 posted on 11/22/2016 5:26:44 AM PST by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hey Rooskies, life’s a b*tch when you’re trick-or-treat and there’s no Texaco airborne...or even the ability to IFR. Back to the drawing board, wannabes.


10 posted on 11/22/2016 5:43:04 AM PST by nickedknack
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To: wrench
Double engine failure due to fuel starvation. Too much air in the fuel tanks?

From the headline, I was thinking that maybe Russian jet engines can't operate underwater.

11 posted on 11/22/2016 5:53:12 AM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What they’re not revealing is the damage and injury or death caused by the snapped CDP/cable and how long the deck was foul. My guess is more than just a few minutes.


12 posted on 11/22/2016 5:54:34 AM PST by nickedknack
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To: csvset

Even without refueling this would still be a rookie mistake of failing to manage fuel reserves, bingo time to allow for exactly this type of thing.

We had arrestor cable snap on Indy at least twice in my time. On one occasion all remaining aircraft in the air were sent to closest air base as it was more involved than just changing the cable - that’s how well they managed the fuel - what I’m unsure is if they had to refuel enroute or they had sufficient reserves to do on their own.

The other time - it was a 10 minute swap and after a few laps aircraft resumed landing.

If it was the more complex situation the aircraft should have been immediately routed to a syrian airfield until the ship could resume recovery ops.


13 posted on 11/22/2016 7:39:13 AM PST by reed13k
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“A few years ago there were stories they were largely contractors as pilots,”

Where would they find experienced carrier pilots?


14 posted on 11/22/2016 7:41:45 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: wrench

Do they have throttle-up limits on those engines. Some engines you just can’t firewall. Thinking pilot error might be possible if the pilot applied too much power too quickly.


15 posted on 11/22/2016 8:08:41 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: polymuser

No barricade netting system.


16 posted on 11/22/2016 8:29:01 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Tallguy

I have never done it, but my understanding is it is SOP to firewall the throttles as the hook catches the arresting gear, otherwise spoolup time will prevent a successful go-around should the hook miss the wires .

There was a question earlier if the Russians have air to air fueling equipment in the area.


17 posted on 11/22/2016 10:24:20 AM PST by wrench
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To: wrench

I imagine the only thing their carrier aircraft may be able to do is ‘Buddy Refuel’ and probably not get much more than a splash of gas given the takeoff weight limitations with a ski-jump flightdeck.


18 posted on 11/22/2016 12:13:28 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: sukhoi-30mki
A preliminary explanation is that they were no longer receiving fuel. ln such situations, a fighter falls like a rock

Why can't our media come up with colorful physics explanations like this?
19 posted on 11/30/2016 4:55:59 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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