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Fact Check: This Pizzeria Is Not a Child-Trafficking Site
New York Slimes ^

Posted on 11/21/2016 7:33:31 PM PST by TigerClaws

WASHINGTON — Days before the presidential election, James Alefantis, owner of a local pizza restaurant called Comet Ping Pong, noticed an unusual spike in the number of his Instagram followers.

Within hours, menacing messages like “we’re on to you” began appearing in his Instagram feed. In the ensuing days, hundreds of death threats — one read “I will kill you personally” — started arriving via texts, Facebook and Twitter. All of them alleged something that made Mr. Alefantis’s jaw drop: that Comet Ping Pong was the home base of a child abuse ring led by Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief, John D. Podesta.

When Mr. Alefantis discovered that his employees were getting similar abusive messages, he looked online to unravel the accusations. He found dozens of made-up articles about Mrs. Clinton kidnapping, molesting and trafficking children in the restaurant’s back rooms. The articles appeared on Facebook and on websites such as The New Nationalist and The Vigilant Citizen, with one headline blaring: “Pizzagate: How 4Chan Uncovered the Sick World of Washington’s Occult Elite.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alefantis; brock; cometpizza; molester; pedophilering; pedophilia; pingpongpizza; pizza; pizzagate; podesta
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To: eeevil conservative
Tere is a legitimate tie to be made in so many other ways with all the other information, but when this is the most visibly shocking way to get attention to this frickin mess- and it turns out to not be accurate- you have folks writing this whole thing off!!

Just because ONE freaky, insane off-shoot is discovered, it doesn't discount or dismiss related satanic or perverted activity. Often they are related by events or common people and players.

I believe ONE series of events legitimizes the extent of other "unbelievable" activities among the elites.

FWIW, there are adequate dots that are already connected regarding the Alefantis-Podestsa web.

81 posted on 11/21/2016 8:46:46 PM PST by HangUpNow
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To: TigerClaws

But that still doesn’t get to the heart of the matter. WHO put Ria Pratt’s drawing on there and why.. Comet Ping Pong’s event posters lists times, prices, etc. That Ria Pratt thing has none of that. Did someone find that on Comet Ping Pongs website?

It’s like someone decided that the girl laying on her back on the event poster was an out of body experience..and thus related to Ria Pratt. I don’t find a connection UNLESS the event poster with price is a Kim Noble piece of art or unless Kim Noble’s art has been in Comet Ping Pong or unless it was actually found on their website.

I am trying to ascertain if Kim Noble is really involved with Comet Ping Pong or if that part of it has taken a life of its own.


82 posted on 11/21/2016 8:46:46 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: Lady Heron

The other problem is it’s now a crime to investigate these criminals.

If you click on the wrong link, you’ve got illegal content in your computer memory. You can delete but it can be uncovered with various programs ... unless you ‘bleach bit’ it.

So, yes, let the authorities investigate. But we saw in Hillary’s situation that even that’s a long shot these days....


83 posted on 11/21/2016 8:46:50 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Jeff Chandler

...and he “ looked it up on line and found all these fake stories”... he didn’t call police? hmmmm his side of the story sounds weird.


84 posted on 11/21/2016 8:47:15 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: TigerClaws

The New York Times - yeah, they have a lot of credibility....


85 posted on 11/21/2016 8:47:19 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: TigerClaws

Sometimes a pizza parlor is just a pizza parlor.


86 posted on 11/21/2016 8:54:01 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRISON, 2020!)
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To: pollywog

What in the online stories is false?

People just pointed to their posters for bands, the bands themselves, the Instagram content he and his friends created and its contents, and the connection to various D.C. players.

What’s false about what people have said?

If he was actually concerned about it, why is the Instagram account still out there? In fact, he added more offensive content to troll those he claims to be concerned about.

And — PLEASE NEW YORK TIMES ASK THIS — is some guy with a pizza joint in D.C. one of the 50 most powerful men in Washington D.C.?????


87 posted on 11/21/2016 8:55:38 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: William Tell

It would also have been helpful if the article explained the meaning of “playing dominoes on pizza”, “beans or egg pizza”, and “I hope you didn’t make your pizza cry”.


88 posted on 11/21/2016 8:56:37 PM PST by T-Bone Texan (The time is now to form up into leaderless cells of 5 men or less.)
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To: the_Watchman

That is a good summary. Comet Pizza has no permit to do that. Nice reason to get a warrant to investigate for authorities and see what else might be going on. Could even dig around to investigate how much they violated the permit laws.

These folks are reprobates and have no business being around kids and any politicians who hang out with them are suspect at best. Agree with that.

But how will actual criminal acts be exposed? Someone on the inside, former victim, whistleblower wanting to cut a deal, the Weiner computer files...


89 posted on 11/21/2016 9:00:52 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Peter ODonnell

West Coast - plenty of Hollywood/Pedowood info out there
Midwest - Conspiracy of Silence - the Omaha newspaper that ran hit stories on the victims just happens to own most of the voting machines in the U.S. Convenient.


90 posted on 11/21/2016 9:01:47 PM PST by bIlluminati (Who is Horatio Bunce?)
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To: TigerClaws

Thanks much for your reply.

The blackmail was attributed to issues of Brock’s business dealings - which should be investigated anyway - but doesn’t back up the allegations in the article.

So, like you, I’m still unaware of anything supporting the charge: “Brock is a confirmed pedophile as exposed in past court cases and the documentary “An Open Secret“.”

As I mentioned before, that Michael Huffington escaped this scandal is surprising.

Nothing sleezy about Brock would surprise me though, just looking for backup for the allegations.

I would still recommend “An Open Secret” (it’s available on YouTube) as a well done and researched documentary.


91 posted on 11/21/2016 9:09:17 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RummyChick

That’s a pie, not pizza.


92 posted on 11/21/2016 9:09:50 PM PST by piasa
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To: KrisKrinkle; TigerClaws
“We are at a dangerous place in American culture where a good percentage of people aren’t distinguishing what is a real news source based on real reporting and fact-checking and only reinforcing pre-existing ideas they have,” Ms. Kleinman said.

Unfortunately, we have been there for a very long time, and the New York Times has been in the forefront since the beginning:

“Any report of a famine in Russia is today an exaggeration or malignant propaganda. There is no actual starvation or deaths from starvation"
-- Walter Duranty, New York Times writer, for which he received a Pulitzer Prize. The Times has never repudiated his work.

The Washington Post, through its weekly newsrag, Newsweek claimed that Elizabeth Bentley was a fantasist. The New Yorker ridiculed her naming her the "Nutmeg Mata Hari." Despite the fact that her evidence broke three different Soviet spy networks, including the Silvermaster Group, despite its corroboration by Whittaker Chambers, despite its support by the FBI, and despite the fact that she identified several previously unknown code names in Venona, none of these publications has ever retracted their mischaracterization of Bentley, and for those of you who think Internet media is superior, Wikipedia continues to fraudulently maintain that her claims are "controversial."

NO. They aren't.

These are just a couple of examples. Anyone who thinks that The New York Times or any of the "mainstream" newspapers or news magazines or TV media have ever been anything but fiction is a fool.

MRC has been documenting their omissions, misdirection, and outright lies for decades. As soon as there was an American Left, there was a fake news media to support it.

The current brouhaha over "fake news" is nothing more than attempt by thoroughly discredited leftwing chatterboxes to distract from the blatant and disgusting lies they told during the most recent presidential campaign, as if they're superior. Those of us who weren't born yesterday know how their effluent ebbs and flows in every season and inevitably reaches a tidal wave of pure horse manure in the final days of every presidential year.

93 posted on 11/21/2016 9:13:09 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: TigerClaws
But how will actual criminal acts be exposed?

We need an FBI and a justice dept. that are not participating in #spiritcookings and #pizzagatings


94 posted on 11/21/2016 9:16:09 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: piasa

yeah, upon closer look..it is a pie. It is still just plain weird. Obambi probably threw it in the trash.


95 posted on 11/21/2016 9:17:40 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: FredZarguna

Bravo!

Excellent post.

“Fake news” is the post-election pivot by the leftist media to create a crisis from which they can justify censorship.

The ‘fake news’ will be Free Republic, Daily Caller, Fox News, Breitbart, etc.

They will ax content from Facebook and Google searches. Down the 1984 wormhole.

Non-news is fake news is non-speech is hate speech. Ban anything we disagree with and make the leftist echo chamber even larger.

Rather than recognize they’ve lost the middle class (rust belt Michigan, Ohio, etc.) and have beomce a niche party of small disgruntled groups, they’ve instead chosen to take tighter control over the media.

They’ll also move to judicial solutions. EVERY Trump move will be challenged in courts and leftist judges who rubberstamped Obama will suddenly find Trump as POTUS has violated the Constitution if he tries to fulfill any of his agenda.

Leftists who applauded ‘get in the back of the bus’ and ruling by presidential fiat, will praise the wonderful restraint on power overreaches provided by the judicial branch.


96 posted on 11/21/2016 9:20:02 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

“And — PLEASE NEW YORK TIMES ASK THIS — is some guy with a pizza joint in D.C. one of the 50 most powerful men in Washington D.C.?????”

You picked up on one of the stranger parts of that story. It makes no sense. I am sure there are Chefs that are better connected in DC if all he is ... is a pizza owner.


97 posted on 11/21/2016 9:23:32 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: TigerClaws
This is a diagram on linking this together
https://i.redd.it/b2rtvxtzvvyx.jpg
98 posted on 11/21/2016 9:37:31 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: TigerClaws
Let's do a thought experiment: Suppose the NYT knew for a fact that - at the very least - Comet Ping Pong was a hangout for people who engaged in bizarre sexual/artistic experiments involving nudity, symbolic dismemberment and stabbings of nude mannequins, sexually-related food fetishes, and artistic themes suggesting a sexual interest in minors.

Suppose further that the denizens of this place included people with access to prominent Democratic politicians, celebrities, and progressive journalists. Would the Times report on it? I doubt it, or, should I say, only insofar as to refute it.

And yet I've seen undeniable photos that this crowd of people DOES engage in such activity, not necessarily at the pizza place, but at other venues and private homes. Why is the Times even pushing back if this story is so detached from reality?
99 posted on 11/21/2016 9:39:40 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: eeevil conservative
I agree. If we are going to criticize the MSM for bias and inaccuracy, we need to avoid it ourselves. At the very least, some of the people at the center of this story are involved in bizarre artistic expression that reeks of sado-masochism and sexualized violence.

There are also some indications that some members of this group have a sexual interest in children, at least as objects of semi-abstract erotic art, often with a grotesque, sadistic, or violent twist. Whether this extends to child sex abuse is another question, and one which I don't think has been proven.
100 posted on 11/21/2016 9:47:00 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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