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A Bleak Outlook for Trump’s Promises to Bring Back Jobs for Coal Miners
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/business/energy-environment/a-bleak-outlook-for-trumps-promises-to-coal-miners.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=E3136142F25682FFE7687D4E2D725F79&gwt=pay&_r=0 ^ | 11/19/2016 | Clifford Krauss and Michael Corkery

Posted on 11/19/2016 3:16:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’ve tried to get some coal to burn in my woodstove overnight so I don’t have to get up and restoke it twice.

Even the local company with “Coal” in its name can’t get me any.


41 posted on 11/19/2016 4:14:21 PM PST by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“miners in hard hats, who he said had been neglected under eight years of the Obama administration.”

Not “neglected,” actively attacked. And if all Trump can do is stop the further closing of mines due to oppressive federal regulations designed expressly to close down coal mines, then he would still be much, much better for coal country than Hillary.


42 posted on 11/19/2016 4:16:00 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: Truth29

“Get the EPA off of our backs, and we might be able to bring back some of the coal fired power plants”

If we put a fraction of the money into alternative uses for coal that we put in BS energy sources such as alcohol and solar, we’d be on a winning course.Burning coal is not the only way to capitalize on its’ enormous energy content


43 posted on 11/19/2016 4:16:56 PM PST by Figment
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The book burners want you to believe the lies


44 posted on 11/19/2016 4:18:36 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

While to rebuild its credibility, the NYT declares the Trump presidency a failure less than 2 weeks after he’s elected. Really?


45 posted on 11/19/2016 4:24:21 PM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
During this nasty 2016 POTUS campaign I noticed there was very little mention of how Trump took over the renovation of the Central Park Wollman Rink, finishing the job earlier than expected and under budget.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/features/2015-09-29/a-1980s-new-york-city-battle-explains-donald-trump-s-candidacy

~ MM ~

46 posted on 11/19/2016 4:27:48 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight (Ich bin ein Deplorable)
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To: angryoldfatman

Obama shut them down. Therefore Trump, IN SOME RESPECT, needs to be involved in bringing them back online.

I don’t need lectures on the free market and the need to limit government.


47 posted on 11/19/2016 4:35:10 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh, don’t worry NY SLIMES. Trump will deliver. You lose.

Again.


48 posted on 11/19/2016 4:38:46 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Lazamataz

NYT = Fake News


49 posted on 11/19/2016 4:46:25 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

even if natural gas works better for us, we can still export our coal to other countries


50 posted on 11/19/2016 4:47:26 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If we bring back steel production, then we bring back a need for coal mining. Natural gas isn’t useful when it comes to producing large amounts of steel.


51 posted on 11/19/2016 4:48:33 PM PST by RedWulf (Trump:Front Lines. Obama: Back Nine. Hillary:Nap Time.)
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To: semimojo

Why would we want to do that if nat gas is cleaner and cheaper?
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Think globally ,, CHINA needs our coal... and LOTS of it.


52 posted on 11/19/2016 4:51:30 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Coal is at the mercy of deregulation, which sounds like free market but really isn’t. If the onerous regulations placed on coal burning power plants were removed, then coal would do just fine.

While removing regulation supposedly allows price competition, it just as often allows large corporations to corner the market and result in no decrease in prices or results in an increase in prices.

So, the reasons for killing coal power plants are not necessarily good reasons. Oddly, the ecology concerns seem to be contradicted by the nation’s willingness to allow coal plants and the sale of coal to proliferate in overseas nations. It is odd that coal hurts the environment here but doesn’t over there. Strange.


53 posted on 11/19/2016 4:59:25 PM PST by xzins
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Executive Order or bill passed reducing EPA funds to $0.

Any questions?


54 posted on 11/19/2016 5:05:56 PM PST by struggle (The)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Coal’s No. 1 rival is cheap, cleaner-burning natural gas — which could become an even more potent competitor under the incoming administration.

I once sat next to the National Sales manager for Babcock & Wilcox on a cross-country flight. We got to talking about the characteristics of various fuels and their relative efficiency in various applications. He summarized it thusly:

1. Petroleum products for mobile applications.

2. Natural gas for heating spaces and cooking food.

3. Coal to raise steam.

Admittedly, this was about fifty years ago and the equations have probably changed. But I wonder if coal has been surpassed in its primary role.

55 posted on 11/19/2016 5:19:15 PM PST by okie01
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To: Sasparilla

Liberalism is a mental disease racked with this kind of cognitive disonance.
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I first heard that description of Liberalism listening to Michael Savage over 10 years ago. He enjoyed making that observation rather frequently.


56 posted on 11/19/2016 5:57:42 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Time for the 'TRUMP 2020' yard signs)
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To: clearcarbon

So if there are no jobs, explain what the purpose was for importing millions more unemployed into the country.
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To grow the Democrat Party’s voter base?


57 posted on 11/19/2016 6:02:28 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Time for the 'TRUMP 2020' yard signs)
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head

Did you apply online to be Trump’s energy secretary ? If not, it’s not too late.


58 posted on 11/19/2016 7:00:39 PM PST by onona (Keeping the faith will be our new directive for the republic !)
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To: Don W

I would like that too. It’s a pita.


59 posted on 11/19/2016 7:03:42 PM PST by onona (Keeping the faith will be our new directive for the republic !)
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To: Truth29

Not only that. The new technologies in using coal for more that just burning needs to be deregulated. The Gov oversight must be burned to the ground. Let American do what Americans do. Innovate!!!


60 posted on 11/19/2016 7:18:59 PM PST by Baseballguy (1)
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