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To: BlackElk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Malaysia

Your plan is not viable. To destroy Muslims with missiles from submarines we’d need a huge fleet of them across most of the planet (see number of Muslims in Malaysia above)

Plus we’d have to be willing to accept astronomical collateral damage of non muslims being wiped out. Who (besides yourself) would be willing to carry out death on such a scale?

To accomplish your ‘extinct’ plan it would have to a simultaneous attack all over the planet because if it was piecemeal, other countries would take out our subs to prevent the task being completed. We don’t have the naval assets to accomplish such a task.

Other nations would not agree with YOUR PLAN and they have nukes. Once they got wind of YOUR PLAN they would use them to stop the mass extermination you propose. I doubt even our Western allies, many of which have nukes would go along with such a plan. So we’d have one go at it ... alone, worldwide, simultaneously ... and as I said, we don’t have the military assets to pull off such a mass extermination.

Your plan is not logical, practicable or feasible ... even if it were moral, which it is not. It’s pure emotional fantasizing.

Your new stance of “make a start at it” would not accomplish making Muslims “extinct” which was your original proposal. We’d never be able to finish YOUR PLAN to make Muslims extinct after the first go round. The rest of the planet would become allies to stop us.

How would you get even our own military on board with such a ludicrous and impossible proposal? Even if they were nutty enough to try such a thing, they are not suicidal.


105 posted on 11/19/2016 8:02:26 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
As to the capabilities of Ohio Class submarines, you don't know what you are talking about.

We need not slaughter every last Muslim, just the ones who defy the West, plan on a world-wide caliphate, force the conversion of all "non-believers" to the fantasies of the 8th Century camel jockey and child molester and have now taken to CRUCIFYING Christian CHILDREN or does that not bother you.

As my mother brought me up to believe (and a lot of other people's moms did likewise), it does not matter if the whole world goes nuts, I will not be joining the nutcases (in this case the spineless who simply will NOT kill their enemies pre-emptively as necessary). The mullahs in Iran whom Comrade Imam Obozo has now allowed to have nukes have constantly declared their intention to incinerate Israel and "The Great Satan" (that would be the USA. What is YOUR plan to stop it? Diployak until the bombs fall on the USA? Oh, they were sooooooo noble that they allowed themselves to be annihilated rather than do ANYTHING EFFECTIVE to stop the Islamolooneytunes!

It appears that Donald Trump is seriously considering retired Marine Corps General James "Mad Dog" Mattis as Secretary of Defense. He does not sit around singing Kumbaya either. Personnel is policy.

Why do we give a crap about the opinion of other nations when catering to their stupidity gets us (and many of them) incinerated?

Let's break down your fantasy of nuclear armed nations attacking us. This is the silly mindset of Robert (truly) Strange MacNamara's MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) that supposedly protected us from the big bad soviet bear during the rule of such quisling POTUSes as Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson (more of a man's man but still a quisling) until Ronaldus Maximus took office and broke the impasse as Brezhnev, Andropov (a truly dangerous man), and Chernenko bit the dust and were replaced by Gorbachev. Reagan explained High Frontier which the soviets could not remotely afford to match or overcome and Gorby gave up the ghost for the ussr. The wall came tumbling down. Eastern Europe and much of central Europe was free. Even Russia had a chance for freedom. Of course, that is at odds with the shameless propaganda that infests the lamestream media. Truth has a habit of doing that.

We have 14 Ohio Class submarines each equipped with 24 Trident II SLBMs each of which has 8-14 nuclear warheads. 14 X 24 X (even 8) makes for 2,688 warheads which ought to be enough to discourage militant Islam permanently. YOU don't have to worry about this. The Islamofascists are the ones who have to worry.

Will the UK stand up for the Islamopigs who are killing Brits within their own borders? Will the French (ditto)? Will the Israelis nuke us to stand up for Iran? So much for allies turning on us. That leaves Russia, Red China, Pakistan and the NORKs. Kim Jong Porkfat may THINK he can harm us but we can finish the job that Truman kept MacArthur from finishing long, long ago and without using many missiles.

The Red Chinese may have it in their hearts to imagine taking us on but where is the sense in that? Their military is engaged as much in commerce as in preparation for war. Playing bumper cars in the sky with an occasional American military plane is one thing and actual war against the US is quite another.

For the same reason that the Chicoms are sooooooo reluctant to try to seize Taiwan, they would not dream of engaging the USA in nuclear war. AND, if not for the treason of Slick Willie for $$$$$$, they would not have the technology to engage Israel in such a war. Also, they are conquering the West by currency manipulation and by treasonweasel "trade" agreements and now by DEMANDING that Trump bow down and adore "Climate Change" Mythology to keep the US from competing with the Chinese commerce. If necessary, we can arm Japan with nukes and, given the history between China and Japan, that will certainly keep the Chicoms busy.

Now we are down to Russia and Pakistan. First, Pakistan. Whenever a reasonable leader arises there (Benazir Bhutto?) the Paki Islamofascists assassinate them. OK, like short people, Pakistan, which also knowingly harbored Osama bin 9/11 for years, and provided nuclear weapons technology to the Iranian mullahs, has no reason to live. In life, the late Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson did a magnificent job of providing for the defense of the United States and Western Civilization. He also memorably said: "I may be a socialist but that does not mean that I must be a damned fool." Let the Ohio Class submarine Henry Jackson do the honors on Pakistan.

Under the czars, Russia was an ally of the 19th century USA. Under the soviets, except for the shameful WWII alliance with Stalin, Russia was our traditional enemy. Putin in the soviet era was boss of the KGB in East Germany, a truly dismal place. Outward appearances suggest that he and Russia have changed.

Despite the airy fairy "realist" views and policies of Nixon/Ford and Poppy Bush, the Russians never gave up their nukes as they were supposed to do. Diployak NEVER solves anything but the NEED of diployakkers for swell hotel accommodations, great booze, fine wine (John Kerry: Another five cases of Chateau Lafitte Rothschild '29! Ain't diplotreason a swell way of life?), and sumptious diplobanquets where just EVERYONE agrees that all is OK with the Establishment's world and the peasants, while still revolting, are still suppressed!!!

I'd like to be privy to our best intelligence as to what today's Putin is REALLY all about. Is he the casually dressed dad bringing his kids to light candles at Mass in Orthodox cathedrals? Is he primarily concerned with tending the billions he has extracted to his own bank accounts from Russia's economy and bullying capitalists into coughing up their property. Would he like to join us in exterminating George Soros who wrecked the Russian economy before going after ours. I am all in favor of old KGB hands joining with Americans in putting a painful end to Soros and his empire. We could divide the assets with Putin and have a whole new relationship.

Putin wants us to join him in propping up Bashar Assad in Syria. That is a definite NO now and forever but so is supporting Assad's ISIS opponents. We can leave Syria to Putin. It is a better idea than any future invasions by Putin of Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Beloruss, etc., or especially Poland, Hungary, The Czech Republic. Slovakia, Slovenia, and other former soviet colonies.

I have a deal for Putin. He can have Syria if he refrains from invading or otherwise attempting to grab those other countries AND he stops arming Islamofascists. Putin is not Stalin. The Islamofascists of Iran ARE Hitler. A combination of Russian and US power would also mean that Putin need have no more worries about Chechnya (Boston Marathon bombing here and seizing a Russian school full of children and bombing a Moscow opera house). He can do with Chechnya as he sees fit and we can help him.

If a viable alliance can be worked with Putin, the half-assed Marxists, atheists, and limp spaghetti spines now running many Western European subdivisions of the anti-American European Union may get the message that we are NOT there for them next time so they better clean up their act, fund their own weapons, grow a pair, and behave like adults OR, well, they have had their chance.

If Italians vote down their idiot PMs constitutional changes to eliminate their Senate's power to slow down leftist disgraces in a hurry, and Netherlands elects Wilders, and Austria elects Hofer and France elects Marine LePen, and each of those countries then has a Brexit of its own, we will have REAL alliances again. Maybe Nigel Farage and UKIP can vanquish Tories and Labor and the politically hermaphrodie LibDems. We might jointly celebrate by invading Belgium and reducing Brussels to ashes. Then pick up each and every Islamo in Europe, dump them on Angela Merkel (if she survives her next election and is not defeated by Alternativ Fur Deutschland), turning Germany into a temporary detention facility and then offering the Islamos the choice: All the way back to the Middle East or half the way back on a leaky boat? It is up to them.

Europe is saved and is no longer a gateway for terrorists to pass through on their way to the US. "Oh no! Muhammed el Kaboomski is not a Syrian. He is a German citizen! You just have to welcome him and ALL his undocumented Demonrat relatives to Centralia, Kansas. Otherwise the Chermans will be most upset with us and throw their baby rattles at us or spit up their crushed peas all over us!" (Unless, of course, Merkel is politically exterminated).

As to any uppity pipsqueak nation "taking out our submarines," that is why God commissioned the Virginia Class Fast Attack Submarines in large numbers. Their navies would be on the bottom and large numbers of land-based and SL ballistic missiles will remain to clean up unexpected messes. Four of the Ohio Class submarines have been converted to conventional weaponry in the form of 254 Cruise Missiles each. Think Mecca, Medina, the Dome of the Rock, Teheran, every royal residence in two-faced Wahabi Saudi Arabia, every mullah ridden mosque. The survivors (now a Stone Age people) can spend their lives and energy trying to learn what a wheel is.

Again, other than "containment" which accomplishes exactly NOTHING but to turn Iran into the new soviets and enduring ANOTHER endless standoff (as they develop usable nukes), what is YOUR plan to put an end to the Iranian mullahs and their nuclear weapons program and their expressed (daily) intention of nuking Israel and the United States???? "Practical" details, please and try not to drag the plan out to 2555 when we can and ought to ACT NOW!

111 posted on 11/20/2016 11:13:30 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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