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Tim Kreepy Klown Kaine: “She won the popular vote!”
Yeah, and I drank more beer than both Hillary and Trump last night, so I want to be President.
Zactly.
The Electoral College evens the playing field by apportionment.
Hillary’s ground game wasn’t quite what it was cracked up to be.
She said we are a constitutional democracy for a reason. She is going to use majority vote as a club.
Irrelevant my ass!
It is relevant because it demonstrates that the founding fathers knew what they were doing when they wrote the Constitution.
They knew that some day the cities would become so large that only a few major cities would control the elections and had the wisdom and the experience with Europe to understand the dangers.
We should give thanks to the founders that we do not have Hillary for our next president.
What about the 60,000 felons that were allowed to vote in Virginia? What about other shenanigans that the Democrats may have perpetrated to get votes for Hillary? If she got more of the popular vote, I’ll bet they weren’t legal votes.
Popular vote? Which party holds more governorships, state legislative bodies and both houses and now the presidency? I’d say the morning POPULAR one.
Also Bullshiit.
Good point. People who don't live in swing states assume that their votes don't matter so they may not vote.
The author also says that campaigns don't go out of their way to get votes in safe states or discourage votes from the other side in such states.
That's true, but in much of the country voters in deeply red or blue states may see the commercials broadcast to or from or for the swing states. There's a spill-over effect. It doesn't change the validity of his case, though.
Has anyone found the actual numbers? Most sites won’t even report that Trump hit 306 electoral votes. He may have won the popular vote by now.
Comrade Hellry and Owl Gore - forever linked together.
My understanding (and I may be wrong here) is that some states stop counting when the remaining ballots are not enough to affect the outcome. Hence, the actual popular vote can not be really known.
As has been correctly pointed out, because we operate under an Electoral system, a vote for Trump in a deep blue state like California or Massachusetts doesn't mean much so voters who might turn out for Trump under a pure popular vote system might not. So arguments about the raw vote totals are not germane as that's not the system being measured.
I’m surprised to hear a lib like Adler making this point. I’d expect him to gripe about it, rather than explain it.
re: There is no advantage to running up the score
The author doesn’t know Mike Madigan of IL.
Irrelevant and sour grapes. The “game” is played to win the most Electoral College votes, not the popular vote. If the rules were different, the game would be played differently.
As an example from another hotly-contested endeavor, look at the 2003 MLB World Series. As we all know, the MLB World Series winner is the first team that wins 4 games in a head-to-head series. In 2003, that was the Florida Marlins. If after the series, the losing Yankees followed the WaPo model, they’d be indignant, saying they should be the declared winner, because they scored more total runs and had more total hits.
Of course, you don’t change the rules after the fact - unless you’re a whiny Dem.
This is only because of asinine states like California.
Trump got 200,000 less votes than leisure suit Satan, ehem..., Hitlery.
In carrying insane California with all its illegal immigrant voters and what not, Hitlery got 2.5 MILLION more votes than Trump.
A 2.5 MILLION vote margin of victory in one crazy state is enough to slaughter the popular vote nation wide.
Just wait a few more decades and all the conservatives have left and instead of California getting 62% votes for Dem candidates it will be 98%. Won’t they be howling to end the brilliant Electoral College then.
LOL. Burn in hell my fellow Californians. Well, you evil ones know who you are. I can’t wait to retire and leave this opressive commie bastion from hell and never look back. May the devastating 8.0 earthquake come swiftly after I am gone.
Cliffs notes: Hillary got 2.5 million more California votes than Trump.
3.0 million CA votes for Trump.
5.5 million CA votes for Hitlery.
California is a one party commie lib Democrat state. Stick a fork in her.