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British intelligence warns Russian vehicle is 'the most revolutionary change in tank design (tr)
MAILONLINE ^ | 6 November 2016 | DARREN BOYLE

Posted on 11/06/2016 6:19:01 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: CurlyDave

Nobody I know has a 250 horse in anything


101 posted on 11/06/2016 10:56:46 AM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new treason. Treason is the new patriotism)
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To: blueunicorn6

Don’t need a bore evacuator if there’s nobody in the turret and the remote crew compartment is sealed.

Backing up: Same way people in the West backup now - rearward cameras.

Situational awareness: They’ve got top mounted optical sensors, much like our Abrams drive around now buttoned up with the crew using the CROWS turret on the main turret roof for situational awareness.


102 posted on 11/06/2016 11:42:41 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Same thing that happens when the autoloader in a current Russian (and now Indian) tank jams - tank has to withdraw as neither the gunner nor track commander can load the gun manually in anything resembling a useful amount of time (and depending on the tank, they may not be able to load it manually at all). However, the recent generations of Russian autoloaders have gotten a lot better. Removing the crew from the turret will make the autoloader even better as there won’t be any way for the autoloader to grab the gunner’s arm and attempt to load it into the main gun as it does in the upgraded/retrofitted T-72.

Here’s a good video on how the Indian/Russian T90S tank’s autoloader works, autoloader footage starts at 1:44. This system is descended from the T-72’s primitive autoloader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jmIVC7yLU0


103 posted on 11/06/2016 11:51:15 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Also, this tank is kind of like the Stryker was supposed to be, only it’s not being specced by idiots - they’re going to use the T-14 chassis as the basis for heavy IFVs, SPGs, recovery vehicles, heavy mortar carriers and rocket artillery. Basically, they’re going to one chassis for as many vehicles as possible for (among other benefits) the reduction in the logistics tail required.


104 posted on 11/06/2016 11:55:02 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: blueunicorn6

FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armata_Universal_Combat_Platform


105 posted on 11/06/2016 11:56:51 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Aim anti-tank weaponry for the lower tracks.


106 posted on 11/06/2016 12:03:16 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

It is not advisable to fight Ivan on his territory *period.* The Siege/Battle of Stalingrad didn’t just take place in the winter, after all, and the Germans, Italians, Hungarians and Romanians didn’t enjoy the experience at all.

Ivan *owned* (and probably still owns) urban warfare on his own turf.


107 posted on 11/06/2016 12:06:02 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

The issue I would think is the crew cannot access the turret. Other articles point out there are sensors in the turret which if they fail. the tank cannot fight, and the crew cannot service.


108 posted on 11/06/2016 12:11:32 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: onedoug

Better be using mines or be really, really really close because this thing has Arena active anti-tank projectile protection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_(countermeasure)

It also has Shtora jammer and launcher detection systems. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtora

Bottom line is if you fire a TOW or a laser guided munition at one of these, you better damn well take it out with your first round because as the Wiki articles notes:

“...the Shtora system can also locate the area within 3.5–5 degrees where the laser originated from and automatically slew the main gun to it, so that the tank crew can return fire and so that the stronger frontal turret armour is facing it.”

The main gun is also perfectly capable of taking out attack helicopters.


109 posted on 11/06/2016 12:11:34 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Yeah, but to be fair in current Russian tanks even with a crew already in the turret they usually can’t un-f**k whatever went wrong on an immediate basis and the tank would have to withdraw anyway.

However, the T-14 does have external access hatches to the turret and it is designed so that the crew is likely going to be able to repair the turret’s automation - as long as they’re not in direct combat and can exit the vehicle to work on it.

Something that nobody here seems to have noticed - one of the interesting things is that unlike most past Russian tanks, this is the first modern Russian tank that is actually designed to have the ability to fight like a Western tank - it is big enough and has enough gun depression to sit behind a hill or in another hull-down position with only the turret exposed to hostile fire and be able to return fire. Getting the crew out of the turret entirely means that they don’t really have to care if the turret gets hit as the soft, squishy and most vulnerable parts in the turret (the crew) aren’t there any more. As long as the machinery in the turret still works, the tank can still fight even with a compromised turret. The turret can even theoretically flooded with an inert gas to prevent fires; should the turret be taken out of action the tank can simply drive away from the hull down position with its crew intact.


110 posted on 11/06/2016 12:18:45 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

And the Sherman had cup-holders!


111 posted on 11/06/2016 5:09:19 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools" Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Spktyr

Nob the bomblets being banned are targeted at children, these are heatseeking and targets a hot engine in a truck or tank.


112 posted on 11/07/2016 3:55:16 AM PST by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: stockpirate

Nope, all mass deployed bomblets are being targeted by treaty bans - anti-personnel, anti-armor and runway denial.

This is why our MLRS artillery system no longer has the original area denial/destruction munitions.


113 posted on 11/07/2016 11:08:41 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What about a Bose sound system?


114 posted on 11/07/2016 11:11:56 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (If only Hillary had married OJ instead......)
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