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To: Zakeet

The Democrats should have nominated someone else. Ultimately Hillary and her acolytes were able to strong arm most other candidates out of the running. And in many ways the most viable alternatives came up in the Clinton machine so they could not/would not oppose her. Bernie knew he had small odds to win but wanted to push her left so she would make campaign promises and also to motivate down ballot votes from the left and to the leftward candidates. O’Malley also knew had virtually nil chance but needed visibility for 2016-2020 (plus you never know what could happen to the leading candidates as Hillary said about Bobby Kennedy).

The real problem for me is the stranglehold Clinton has on the party. She stacked the deck deep in her favor. DNC was run by Clintonites. And the Super Delegates have a lot of power in their party. The SDs act like junior congressmen - they vote for who they are told to vote for. And the Dem party is fueled by Clinton campaign cash. No other candidate was raising money for the party like she was. So the SDs had to vote for her or risk retribution from the party - no committee assignments in congress, no campaign help from the party, no help getting big names to campaign for them and raise money for them. The party is run on cash and the Clinton machine syphoned all the cash from big donors. Bernie got his financing from the voters not the rich people in Hollywood and Wall Street.

The SDs make up about 15% of the nominating votes in their party. But in a 2-person race that makes 30% of the votes you need to win the nomination. Add in the proportional representation rule where there are no winner-take-all states, the person with the support of the SDs can come in 2nd place or even 3rd place in every state and still win the nomination. Politically that would be a problem but mathematically, with the near unanimous support of the SDs she was virtually guaranteed the nomination. Bernie and O’Malley (and the few others) would have had to keep her under 30% in every state for her to lose the race. She was mathematically guaranteed the nomination by the rules and the SD support.

The SDs had the chance to challenge her. They chose to support her knowing all they knew. This is a big problem in my view. It says to me either the party is afraid of the Clintons, or way too beholden to them, or inept without them. None of those answers is good for their party or the country. If she were to win, and had the party leaders in her pocket by hook or by crook, she would be an extremely potent executive. If the Dems also took Congress it would be trouble - look at what just 2 years of Obama+Dem congress brought us. And the party was not afraid of Obama though he could raise a lot of cash.


34 posted on 11/02/2016 10:48:53 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

in the final analysis...... all super delegates are complicit in the crimes coming forth from the Foundation

There are thus hundreds and hundreds of guilty parties outside the Clinton Shadow government second and third circles


139 posted on 11/03/2016 4:50:20 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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