Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Air Force to Sustain A-10s ‘Indefinitely,’ General Says
Defense Tech ^ | October 28, 2016 | By Oriana Pawlyk

Posted on 10/28/2016 11:49:34 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

The depot line for the A-10 Thunderbolt is cranking back up as part of an effort to keep the Cold War-era aircraft flying “indefinitely,” a general said.

Depot maintenance for the popular close-air-support aircraft, popularly known as the Warthog, has been “fully reopened,” Air Force Materiel Command chief Gen. Ellen Pawlikowski told Aviation Week on Monday.

“They have re-geared up, we’ve turned on the depot line, we’re building it back up in capacity and supply chain,” Pawlikowski said. “Our command, anyway, is approaching this as another airplane that we are sustaining indefinitely.”

Pawlikowski also told the magazine that Air Force maintainers are gearing up to replace the Warthog’s wings, dipping into a $2 billion Boeing contract originally awarded in 2007, according to Popular Mechanics. The contract was intended to upgrade the A-10 when the plan was to keep the aircraft flying until 2028.

Like any decades-old aircraft, the A-10 has experienced corrosion, which is to be expected, Pawlikowski said. The majority of the maintenance work for the 283-aircraft fleet is conducted at Hill Air Force Base in Utah. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at defensetech.org ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-78 next last

1 posted on 10/28/2016 11:49:34 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee
Watch out for these.


2 posted on 10/28/2016 11:52:09 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee

Despite the nickname, I have always liked this aircraft.


3 posted on 10/28/2016 11:52:14 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (For every Allende, there is a Pinochet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee

They need to produce a drone-version of Warthog. Relying on warplanes whose production was ceased a long time ago would not be enough.


4 posted on 10/28/2016 11:53:24 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tench_Coxe

Me too...

Overpowered, durable, and hell on wheels for the enemy.

Love it.


5 posted on 10/28/2016 11:54:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Lost in Space / the Democrats are Dr. Smith and the rest of us are the Robinsons...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee

Why not build new ones also and just add better tech as it comes available? The thing does a monster job but you know there are improvements that can be made.


6 posted on 10/28/2016 11:54:55 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee

keeping the A10 is the second best news I’ve heard today.


7 posted on 10/28/2016 11:57:06 PM PDT by llevrok (je sui cou rouge !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee
The reason the USAF is going to keep the A-10 Warthogs flying is that the service does NOT have a survivable ground attack machine that can do the close air support (CAS) mission. For the price of one (1) F-35A Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), the USAF can completely upgrade its entire A-10 fleet to the A-10C, re-manufacture older birds, and run A-10 squadrons for at least three years. Besides, what USAF officer would dare to put his brand new wonder weapon anywhere near a CAS environment? The USAF doesn't know if the F-35 can even do CAS effectively, but the A-10 certainly can. The US Army isn't doing handsprings over retiring the A-10 in favor of the F-35 JSF either. The Army knows the USAF will not want to risk their hideously expensive F-35s doing the CAS role for troops on the ground.
8 posted on 10/29/2016 12:06:16 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX:)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Chandler

The JsF’s heat signature is much worse than the A10. F-16s hit the ground on Iraq doing CAs. It is not a job for JSF class aircraft.

Combined arms tactics require JSF and A10 to
work together


9 posted on 10/29/2016 12:34:10 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: llevrok

Its bad news imho. It’s old and need retirement. The only reason they’re keeping it is because there’s no close range air support to replace. Personally I think lots of drones could fill this role, not f-35


10 posted on 10/29/2016 12:35:25 AM PDT by 4rcane
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: llevrok

The army should have never let go
of the A10 to the Air Force. Seems
like the Air Force took it just to decide to get rid of it without consultation with ground forces


11 posted on 10/29/2016 12:36:36 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 4rcane
Even though what you say has merit, there is nothing like the BBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that one hears right after you see enemy artillery and tanks turned into scrap metal.


12 posted on 10/29/2016 12:47:53 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: JudgemAll

mmmm The Army never had the A-10. There was talk when the Air Force first wanted to get rid of them but when congress seriously started considering it the Air Force decided to keep them to stop the Army from having fixed wing combat AC.


13 posted on 10/29/2016 12:52:44 AM PDT by Kadric
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee

Why do they keep threatening this plane? The thing is a flying TANK tank killer. Sure, I realize that it makes life tough in the cocktail lounge when you have to explain that, while you really ARE a pilot, the thing you fly is called “Wart Hog” but Buck Up! Folks have endured worse for their country.


14 posted on 10/29/2016 1:14:08 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kadric

I seem to remember pictures of A-10s with US Army painted on them, and also a story about how the air force did not like the US Army having them. I might be wrong.


15 posted on 10/29/2016 1:15:54 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Brad from Tennessee

The A-10 also needs upgrades, and the Air Force needs to adopt close air support methods and doctrines that pair it with the F-35 so as to put their respective capabilities at the service of US ground forces. Testing and exercises have shown that they make a potent combination.


16 posted on 10/29/2016 1:19:44 AM PDT by Rockingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 4rcane
"Personally I think lots of drones could fill this role, not f-35."

Personally, I think that since a new A10 only costs a couple million more than a Predator and is far, far, more capable, it would be a Hell of a lot cheaper and also provide a much more effective CAS capability to reopen the production line and build new ones with the upgrades in them from the start. Not a "redesign" that would be an invitation to waste money, just the same plane with upgrades and whatever improvements that are easy to fit in the existing airframe as it already exists.

In addition, this time around the USAF should be kept from deliberately not equipping them for all the missions they could perform in order to make sure they could still justify buying other more expensive aircraft. No matter how you slice it, an F16 with two fat fuel tanks to have loiter time is no where near as effective as an A10 for CAS and the F35 is far worse than the F35.

17 posted on 10/29/2016 1:34:09 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Rashputin
finger futz fix follows :

". . . and the F35 is far worse than the F35."

should read :

"and the F35 is far worse than the F16."

18 posted on 10/29/2016 1:46:20 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Tench_Coxe

...devastatingly effective


19 posted on 10/29/2016 2:11:47 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: wastoute

“Sure, I realize that it makes life tough in the cocktail lounge when you have to explain that, while you really ARE a pilot, the thing you fly is called “Wart Hog” but Buck Up! “

Pure bullrap and you have no idea what you are talking about. Do yourself a little favor and educate yourself how the “Hog Drivers” feel about this aircraft. That is their given title, not some idiot yaking in a bar.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18002876-hog-driver


20 posted on 10/29/2016 2:26:43 AM PDT by mazda77 (The solution: Vote Trump)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-78 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson