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To: John W

How bad is it? THIS bad ............

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Thursday, October 27, 2016
The Good and the Bad of Obamacare
http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-good-and-bad-of-obamacare.html

In this interview [ http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000562441 ], I mentioned the information a broker in Naples Florida sent me regarding some of their customers buying Obamacare compliant individual health insurance.

Here are the broker’s 2017 examples:

Family of four, mom and dad age 40, two kids. Lowest Bronze annual premium $13,176. Deductible $7,150 single, $14,300 family. Income $130,000. Not eligible for subsidies. Exempt from the individual mandate because their premium exceeds 8.16% of their modified adjusted gross income (MAGI). The broker points out that their premium plus one deductible totals $20,236––16% of MAGI––the point at which they can begin to collect on claims (there may be some nominal first dollar benefits such as a wellness benefit).

Single woman age 45. Lowest Bronze premium $4,968. Deductible of $7,150. Income of $50,000. Not eligible for a subsidy. Exempt from the individual mandate because her premium exceeds 8.16% of her MAGI. Broker points out that her customer’s premium plus the deductible totals $12,118––24% of the customer’s MAGI––the point at which she can begin to collect on claims.

Couple ages 64 and 61. Lowest Bronze premium $20,004. Deductible of $7,150 single and $14,300 family. Income of $150,000. Not eligible for subsidies. Exempt from the individual mandate because premium exceeds 8.16% of MAGI. The broker points out that the total of their annual premium and one deductible is $27,154––18% of their MAGI––the point at which they can begin to collect on claims.

Premiums obviously vary by market. Rather than taking my word for it, I suggest you go to HealthCare.gov and check out a few markets. You do not need to log in to browse the plan offerings. You need only insert a zip code and age and family status, as well as to enter a big income like $100,000 to be assured of getting the unsubsidized price no matter their status. The unsubsidized price is the price that half of the people buying Obamacare compliant plans are paying.

Posted by ROBERT LASZEWSKI at 1:31 PM


8 posted on 10/28/2016 7:48:44 AM PDT by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for. The God I worship died for mewww.freerepublic.com/f. [Franklin Graham])
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To: Qiviut

Wow! Thanks for the breakdown. No wonder so many are opting out of Obamacare and willing to pay the TAX as Justice Roberts changed it to from a penalty. If I understand correctly, there is no other means to collect said tax unless you have a tax refund coming. They can’t garnish wages; can’t put leans of your home; can’t put you in jail; etc.


21 posted on 10/28/2016 8:16:21 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: Qiviut

Hah! Those examples are nothing. When I ran our income for just me and hubby through the California website the deductible and premiums equaled almost 30% of our incomes.


33 posted on 10/28/2016 9:09:29 AM PDT by sheana
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