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Will Obama pardon Hillary?

Posted on 10/27/2016 9:36:53 AM PDT by detective

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To: HiTech RedNeck
“Is such a thing even defined under the Constitution? It never was questioned at the time. That doesn’t mean that, say, Donald Trump can’t come along and question it.”

In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment." (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

121 posted on 10/27/2016 1:54:11 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

I appreciate the clarification.


122 posted on 10/27/2016 2:30:20 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: detective
If she loses, sure.

If she wins, it's bad optics.

Not good to start an administration with an explicit admission that boss lady is a criminal who avoided prosecution.

123 posted on 10/27/2016 2:34:46 PM PDT by x
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To: detective

Do you think Trump would want to spend political capital sending that woman to jail?

Assuming he prevails, he has just blocked her from ever being president, forever, no do overs, she will never be the first woman president. Then he can permanently stain her with a Nixon like pardon and walk away.

Boom! mic drop. Nothing more to see, move along.


124 posted on 10/27/2016 3:13:15 PM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: dangerdoc

baloney she must be prosecuted or pardoned to prevent others from doing the dame in the future..change the pardon law also...


125 posted on 10/27/2016 3:19:35 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: knarf

Only if Trump wins. If cancles wins we will never know the truth. And there will be a ‘bloodbath” in the inner circle of Clinton.


126 posted on 10/27/2016 3:26:15 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (proawaki)
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To: rolling_stone

Which part is baloney? Not trying to fight just curious how you are seeing this differently from me.


127 posted on 10/27/2016 3:59:55 PM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: detective

128 posted on 10/27/2016 5:31:16 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: detective

How can an individual, who has not been convicted of a crime, warrant a pardon?

, there is no reason for Odumbo to grant a pardon...


129 posted on 10/27/2016 5:39:46 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: LibertyOh

In office. What about what happened since then?


130 posted on 10/27/2016 6:39:30 PM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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To: Defiant

She’s not been in any office since 2013


131 posted on 10/27/2016 6:49:22 PM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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To: Jaded

That is 100 percent true. So?


132 posted on 10/27/2016 7:18:25 PM PDT by Defiant (#HillaryGropedMe when I tried to get her hands off my girlfriend.)
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To: detective

One cannot pardon someone who has not be convicted of anything in a court of law. This is still America and we still do have laws. Obozo will be out of office before the Hellary can be convicted.


133 posted on 10/27/2016 8:07:36 PM PDT by TRAPPER2 ( God Bless Our Troops and God Bless America!! In God We Trust.)
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To: detective

One cannot pardon someone who has not be convicted of anything in a court of law. This is still America and we still do have laws. Obozo will be out of office before the Hellary can be convicted.


134 posted on 10/27/2016 8:07:36 PM PDT by TRAPPER2 ( God Bless Our Troops and God Bless America!! In God We Trust.)
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To: Jaded

“In office. What about what happened since then?”

Ford’s pardon of Nixon specifically cited the time period Nixon was in office,

“full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.”

I don’t know of any limitation on the President’s pardon power, although not applicable to impeachments by Congress.

If what you are asking is about things Mrs. Bill did after she left the SOS office, there is no limitation on the President so he can pardon her for everything in between then and now.

After Zero leave office - she’s toast for anything new. The Clinton’s can’t help themselves - they will continue to break the law somehow - and it will be up to the Trump administration to bring their cabal to justice.


135 posted on 10/28/2016 2:54:11 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: terycarl
So far, sh hasn’t been charged with anything....you can’t issue a pardon for something that she might be charged with!!!

Oh, but Zero can. Just ask Gerry Ford!

Start here, in September 1974 (boldface added):

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

A PROCLAMATION

Richard Nixon became the thirty-seventh President of the United States on January 20, 1969 and was reelected in 1972 for a second term by the electors of forty-nine of the fifty states. His term in office continued until his resignation on August 9, 1974.

Pursuant to resolutions of the House of Representatives, its Committee on the Judiciary conducted an inquiry and investigation on the impeachment of the President extending over more than eight months. The hearings of the Committee and its deliberations, which received wide national publicity over television, radio, and in printed media, resulted in votes adverse to Richard Nixon on recommended Articles of Impeachment.

As a result of certain acts or omissions occurring before his resignation from the Office of President, Richard Nixon has become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States. Whether or not he shall be so prosecuted depends on findings of the appropriate grand jury and on the discretion of the authorized prosecutor. Should an indictment ensue, the accused shall then be entitled to a fair trial by an impartial jury, as guaranteed to every individual by the Constitution.

It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President of the United States. The prospects of such trial will cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.

Gerald Ford Signature.svg

That is the controlling legal authority. For those of you in Rio Linda, that means he has the power.

136 posted on 10/28/2016 3:08:23 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: thingumbob
Ford immediately became president when he took the oath

Yeah. Ford was literally "crowned" president.

137 posted on 10/28/2016 5:03:49 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: TRAPPER2
“One cannot pardon someone who has not be convicted of anything in a court of law. This is still America and we still do have laws. Obozo will be out of office before the Hellary can be convicted.”

This is simply not true.

Ford gave Nixon a full preemptive pardon even though Nixon had not been charged.

Gerald Ford gave Richard Nixon a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes he might have committed against the United States while president.

A president can pardon whoever he wants for any Federal crime regardless of whether their has been any charges at all.

In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power “extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.” (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

138 posted on 10/28/2016 10:14:29 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective
don’t think [Hillary] cares about any of those people. They could easily end up dead.

That is why Trump's AG needs to go after Chelsea.

139 posted on 10/29/2016 1:52:53 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: detective

Unless convicted, no pardon

Obama can try but the pardon will not stand.

There is a better than even chance that soon Obama will be complicit in the E mail fiasco

He can be impeached and found guilty ex officio


140 posted on 10/29/2016 1:59:12 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Exile Barack, Exile the Wookie, Exile Malia, Exile Shasha)
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