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New Army Long-Range Missile Might Kill Ships, Too: LRPF
Breaking Defense ^ | October 13, 2016 | SYDNEY J. FREEDBERG JR.

Posted on 10/27/2016 6:01:45 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Army ATACMS missile launch.

“Outranged and outgunned” by Russian and Chinese missiles, the US Army wants a new long-range artillery rocket of its own. The nascent Long-Range Precision Fires program could do much more than replace the 25-year-old ATACMS missile, however. LRPF could become a linchpin of what the Army is calling Multi-Domain Battle, extending ground-based artillery’s reach not only to unprecedented ranges — hitting distant targets once reserved for airstrikes — but out to sea.

Why does the Army need to do this? Since 1991, when the Soviet Union fell and ATACMS entered service, the Army has largely neglected the artillery, so much so that one group of disgruntled officers called it a “dead branch walking.” Ground troops relied on the Air Force and Navy to dominate their own domains, prevent enemy airstrikes, and provide firepower on demand. But Russia, China, and even lesser powers like Iran have invested heavily in long-range, land-based anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles to keep the US Air Force and Navy at bay. That means Army forces may have to bring their own in-house heavy firepower to the fight — not only to support its own units on land, but to help out the other services in the air and sea.

That’s where Multi-Domain Battle comes in. Against a high-tech foe with so-called Anti-Access/Area Denial defenses, where US fighters risk being shot down, the best way to take out an enemy airbase, missile battery or command post may be with a long-range land-based missile of one’s own. Likewise, when fighting an A2/AD adversary over a relatively narrow waterway — the Baltic and Black Seas in Europe, the East and South China Seas in Asia — the best way to destroy the enemy fleet may be from unsinkable missile bases on the land.

Admittedly, the initial iteration of Long-Range Precision Fires will probably be more limited. Currently, the Army intends to abide by the Intermediate Nuclear Forces treaty — despite Russia’s violations of it — and restrict LRPF’s range to under 500 kilometers (313 miles), which would still be a 67 percent increase over ATACMS. The Army is also not talking openly about an anti-ship LRPF specifically, although senior generals have called for ship-killing capability in general terms.

But LRPF is meant to be modular, open-architecture, and easy to upgrade. One of the two contractors on the program, Raytheon, told me that giving LRPF more than 500 km of range or an anti-ship seeker would be entirely doable.

“We’re going to provide a solution that allows them to very easily drop in alternate payloads, seekers, and other features,” said J.R. Smith, a former Air Force pilot who’s now Raytheon’s director of advanced warfare systems. “That’s one reason why you want to make your missile modular in its design, so that, for example you might drop in a different rocket motor down the road… There is a potential, as technology continues to advance, to come up with alternative rocket motors that will provide range in excess of 499 (km).”

Rival contractor Lockheed Martin — the incumbent on ATACMS — was more cagey when I asked this question. But VP for ground systems Scott Greene did note that “Lockheed Martin has a plethora of technology” that could be adapted for LRPF, such as its Long-Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM), if the Army wanted an land-based anti-ship solution.

The minimum requirement for LRPF is to perform as well as ATACMS: hit static targets on land up to 300 km away. Lockheed told me there’s plenty of potential to get more range out of ATACMS, let alone a new missile. You can also upgrading guidance. Static targets just require GPS and/or inertial navigation, but you need a radar or infrared seeker to find a moving target.

Once you’ve added that seeker for moving targets, though, you can use it against either ships or tanks, Smith said. In fact, even a small ship, like the 353-foot long Steregushchy corvette, is a vastly bigger target than a large tank, like the 35-foot-long T-14 Armata. Ships are also usually large metal objects that stick out from a flat expanse of water, while ground vehicles can hide among buildings, trees, or rocks.

Indeed, the Pentagon has repeatedly proven you can convert missiles made for other types of targets into anti-ship weapons. The Raytheon SM-6 missile defense interceptor gained anti-ship capability with no physical modifications, just a new software package, in one of the signal accomplishments of the newly created Strategic Capabilities Office. The software on the famed Tomahawk missile, designed to hit land targets, was essentially tricked into hitting moving ships.

So making LRPF capable of killing ships would be entirely in the realm of the possible. It would also be entirely in keeping with the Pentagon’s prioritization of naval warfare and its eagerness to wring new uses out of every weapon. Lockheed and Raytheon are currently on contract to study potential designs — which includes test detonations of live warheads — and expect 2017 awards of three-year contracts to build prototype rockets.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atacms; lockheedmartin; usarmy
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1 posted on 10/27/2016 6:01:45 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Whatever the first picture was , it is a photoshop. That missile did not come out of that launcher, no way in hell.


2 posted on 10/27/2016 6:10:36 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy

Fact is, research and engineering never goes out of style.It’s very important.


3 posted on 10/27/2016 6:16:30 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So the Army wants to reincarnate coastal artillery - cool!


4 posted on 10/27/2016 6:16:51 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: wbarmy
Whatever the first picture was , it is a photoshop. That missile did not come out of that launcher, no way in hell.

Nope, not Photoshop. The launcher is an MLRS which can launch multiple types:


5 posted on 10/27/2016 6:18:46 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: wbarmy

Not a photoshop. That is a genuine ATACMS launch.


6 posted on 10/27/2016 6:23:14 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Adopt the Tomahawk and/or harpoon for land based firing they are already pretty much containerized just need a sturdy enough rolling platform ... problem solved.

geez is this really rocket science....badump dum...be here all week folks.


7 posted on 10/27/2016 6:27:12 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: rjsimmon

What is loaded in the left chamber? One heckuva double-barrelled shotgun!


8 posted on 10/27/2016 6:30:01 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO!)
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To: reed13k

The ATACMS is meant to be a tactical missile system, so the range advantage of the Tomahawk doesn’t count.

And being a ballistic missile, it goes several times faster than the Harpoon and Tomahawk.

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/atacms.htm


9 posted on 10/27/2016 6:32:29 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: TADSLOS

I see what they did. They put the six tube MLRS pod on one side, and the one tube ATACMS pod on the other side. I had not seen that before.

When I saw the MLRS in the field, both sides were the six tube pods. Did not think about fitting separate pods at the same time.


10 posted on 10/27/2016 6:34:44 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“the Army has largely neglected the artillery”

The Army has DESTROYED the Field Artillery branch.


11 posted on 10/27/2016 6:44:15 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: wbarmy

Sure it did.


12 posted on 10/27/2016 6:44:40 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: NonValueAdded

MLRS was originally designed to hold two “six packs” of 203mm unguided rockets. Then they came up with ATACMS, which replaced each six-pack with a single, longer range guided missile. They kept the six-pack appearance on the missile module so the enemy couldn’t easily see what they were packing.


13 posted on 10/27/2016 6:47:58 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: wbarmy

All of the missiles have the “six-pack” appearance. The right module might hold an ATACMS or six 203mm rockets.


14 posted on 10/27/2016 6:49:05 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: rjsimmon

“Nope, not Photoshop. The launcher is an MLRS which can launch multiple types:”

So the endcap on the single-missile pod has indents for six rockets just like the pod that actually holds six rockets?

Good Maskirovka.


15 posted on 10/27/2016 6:53:28 AM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

They didn’t destroy us, just decimated us. Direct support artillery (units that directly support manuever forces) are largely intact, just somewhat fewer gun tubes per battalion. General support artillery is about 1/3 of what we had in 2003.

This has caused three separate but related problems:

1) Lack of ability to mass fires. The carnage has been in general support artillery. Instead of a Corps Artillery of 2-3 Brigades per Corps, we have a single brigade per corps. This limits the ability of the Army to reinforce units with extra artillery when they need to mass fires on an enemy.

2) Reduction in available firepower. HIMARS systems have partially replace MLRS (M270) systems (post #1 has pics of both). HIMARS systems are easier to move strategically by air, MLRS are tracked and not road bound like the HIMARS. The tradeoff is that HIMARS systems can carry one pod, MLRS carries two. So a HIMARS battalion has half the firepower of an MLRS battalion.

3) Less flexibility. Fewer systems, fewer people, reduce the amount of individual systems strategic, operational, and tactical planners and their commanders at all levels can use for each operation. With fewer systems comes the requirement to pick and choose who gets fire support and who doesn’t. Someone, somewhere will be left out. Murphy dictates that they are the one who will need it the most.


16 posted on 10/27/2016 7:20:24 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: PLMerite

You have to get close to a pod to see what is actually in it. Fortunately, as a last resort, when you plug the pod into a launcher, it tells you what kind: rocket, missile, or training pod, it is. Loading the wrong pod is high on the list of MLRS/HIMARS crew no nos.


17 posted on 10/27/2016 7:24:31 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: PLMerite

Why not a rail gun?


18 posted on 10/27/2016 7:49:08 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

With the power required to fire one, each gun would need it’s own power generating station. Not exactly feasible.


19 posted on 10/27/2016 7:56:22 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("It's not the whole world gone mad. Just the people in it.")
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To: SJSAMPLE
The Army has DESTROYED the Field Artillery branch.

Like the Air Force has disdained ground support.

20 posted on 10/27/2016 8:01:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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