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1 posted on 10/26/2016 9:11:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Can you avoid the tax by charitable donations?


2 posted on 10/26/2016 9:13:34 PM PDT by Fai Mao (PIAPS for Prison 2016)
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AFFORDABLE ALTERNATIVE TO OBAMACARE
http://samaritanministries.org/costs/monthly/


6 posted on 10/26/2016 9:21:18 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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Just saying.

We should really not criticize dems on this issue.

There are a million things to criticize dems on. Virtually every single issue, in the world. Every one, the dems are on the wrong side.

Free speech. Media bias. Our liberal-infested education monstrosity. The GOP is right about America’s awesome military, and the millions of patriotic Americans everywhere. Our historic level of personal freedom. American business interests (American, not foreign). Gun rights. On every single issue, the GOP is far, far superior to what the dems continue to parrot mindlessly, as a massive statist block.

But on medical care, the GOP has been completely absent.

Nowhere. At all.

This is one subject the GOP should shut up about. They have done nothing for the entire last generation.

Not one thing.

Come up with a better idea. Until you do, just do not say a single word.

That is my strong, opinion.

Our medical system is an extremely expensive mess. Millions cannot even afford care, and just go to emergency when things get bad.

That is not a healthcare system, a country like America deserves.

It is utterly sold-out to the profession.

Obamacare was a result of that. It was something. You may strongly disagree with it, but where is even one Republican alternative.

What we had, was a hugely expensive mess.

GOP needs to say how they would improve things. Not simply criticize Obamacare.

How would we do it better?


8 posted on 10/26/2016 9:22:50 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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So..... Where did the 5.6million times $447/ea on the average tax penalty go?

$247,520,000 is a lot of money


10 posted on 10/26/2016 9:27:34 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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"The architects of the Affordable Care Act thought they had a blunt instrument to force people — even young and healthy ones — to buy insurance through the law’s online marketplaces: a tax penalty for those who remain uninsured.

It has not worked all that well, and that is at least partly to blame for soaring premiums next year on some of the health law’s insurance exchanges.

And the same architects would like to send men with guns to force you to sign up, or else....

11 posted on 10/26/2016 9:29:40 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (For every Allende, there is a Pinochet)
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Tax penalty? I heard Obamacare wasn’t a tax.


12 posted on 10/26/2016 9:30:54 PM PDT by CatOwner
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Notice how they refer to it as a “Health Law TAX Penalty?”

FU John Roberts


14 posted on 10/26/2016 9:34:28 PM PDT by PGR88
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Women, children and minorities hardest hit.


20 posted on 10/26/2016 9:45:43 PM PDT by OrangeHoof ("If you cain't run yo own house, you cain't run da White House. Cain't do it." - Michelle Obama)
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They used to say of something really, really crappy, “You couldn’t give it away!”

Now, people take penalties rather than accept obama’s horsesh*t.

Clearly, obamacare is worse than nothing at all.


23 posted on 10/26/2016 9:52:59 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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People are actually acting quite rationally, though I imagine many don’t know it. The ACA includes a mandate in both directions, you have to buy it but they also have to provide it to you no matter how sick you are. The rational person who doesn’t have any ongoing health insurance would just treat that $700 like an catastrophic health policy. You pay cash for what you need, until something really bad befalls you, in which case you sign up for health insurance. The average person would put 10-15k into their pockets every year for 10-20 years in that way.


33 posted on 10/26/2016 10:06:45 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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The sheer brilliance of these so-called architects is just awe inspiring. The many years of training at institutions of higher learning, the hours of study, it really comes out.

Now, moving on to the advanced math section of this post....A $700 annual penalty (amounting to $58.33 a month) is...more.....or less....than $700 or $800 or $1200 a month...plus a $6500 (now more like $8000) deductible. Amounting to over $20,000. Unless you are pretty sick or need an operation...how many $500 visits to a doctor can you afford, if you pay cash? How about $1000 visits? How about $5000 visits? Now scholars have struggled with this apparent conundrum since the law was passed in 2009. Seven years later, it still presents something of a conundrum. Now suppose you needed a $20K operation? Maybe a $3K insurance policy, paid by all, would cover that. And then it would be done.


40 posted on 10/26/2016 10:22:53 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)
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bump


41 posted on 10/26/2016 10:23:29 PM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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any wikileaks on roberts yet? lest we forget, pelosi knew how he was going to vote.


48 posted on 10/26/2016 11:32:14 PM PDT by dadfly
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50 posted on 10/27/2016 1:34:09 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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Further down in the article, they mention over 12M people received a hardship waiver and didn’t have to pay a penalty. With these whopping premium increases, more people will be able to take the 8% hardship waiver.


58 posted on 10/27/2016 3:00:46 AM PDT by EVO X
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And thus the real purpose of the law...to increase taxes an average of 442 per PERSON per year. That’s over 161 BILLION dollars a year in taxes per year that did not previously exist.


65 posted on 10/27/2016 3:59:18 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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Imagine having to pay a tax because you can’t afford health insurance that doesn’t really insure you


67 posted on 10/27/2016 4:37:25 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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The architects of the Affordable Care Act thought they had a blunt instrument to FORCE people — even young and healthy ones — to buy insurance...

Hillarycare, Obamacare, TOTALITARIANCARE.

DISMANTLE totalitarian collectives, foreign and domestic.

DEPOPULATE totalitarians from the body politic.

The most EVIL government in the history of the republic.

TREASON - continuous, in-your-face, pre-meditated, agenda-driven, agency-abetted, representative-enabled, court-sanctioned, media-complicit, NGO administered, ongoing...


69 posted on 10/27/2016 5:10:55 AM PDT by PGalt
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Please, people, it isn’t a tax, tax penalty, or even a fee.

It’s an “Individual Shared Responsibility Payment”.


70 posted on 10/27/2016 5:16:11 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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Still No Discussion About the Real Medical Issue
74 posted on 10/27/2016 6:38:06 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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