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Blowback for American sins in the Philippines
Boston Globe ^ | October 16, 2016 | Stephen Kinzer

Posted on 10/23/2016 4:41:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

SOMETIMES AMERICANS THINK we have won a war, only to realize years or decades later that our victory was incomplete. Now we are facing an eruption of anger over a war we waged more than a century ago. Rarely has blowback from an overseas intervention come back to haunt us so long after the shooting stopped.

This unexpected challenge has emerged from the Philippines. The new president, Rodrigo Duterte, recently announced plans to pull his country out of America’s orbit and adopt an “independent” foreign policy. “I am anti-West,” he explained. “I do not like the Americans. It’s simply a matter of principle for me.”

Duterte’s grievance is rooted in history. Americans, he asserted, unjustly seized the Philippines in 1899, waged a horrific military campaign to suppress native resistance, and “have not even apologized to the Filipino nation.” He waved photographs showing bodies of Filipinos killed in that war.

Soon after Duterte made that startling speech, his foreign minister, Perfecto Yasay, went even further. In 1899, Yasay asserted, the United States “arrogated our victory in the struggle for freedom” and then used “invisible chains” to bind Filipinos into “shackling dependency.” Americans, he said, treat Filipinos as “little brown brothers not capable of true independence or freedom.” To escape from that humiliation, he concluded, the Philippines must end its “subservience to United States interests.”

Most Americans would have no idea what these new Filipino leaders are talking about. We forgot the Philippine War long ago. Filipinos remember it vividly. It stands with the horrors of Japanese occupation during World War II as one of their great national traumas. A very old debt is finally coming due.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: duterte; philippines
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To: ASA Vet

I think I saw it there!


41 posted on 10/23/2016 6:09:00 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: SeekAndFind

BS from the Philipinno president, let him go the Chinese and see what will happen in a few years.


42 posted on 10/23/2016 6:10:39 PM PDT by Rebel2016
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To: Jonty30

It was until 1948.
Their culture is too different, letting them go to stand on their own was the right thing to do.
For good or ill Duarte is their choice. Now they have to live with it.


43 posted on 10/23/2016 6:11:49 PM PDT by Reily
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To: SeekAndFind

Pivot to Asia. Another failure in the long list of Obama failures.


44 posted on 10/23/2016 6:12:05 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind
That is why a 110-year-old atrocity has suddenly leaped from the pages of history to reshape today’s world.

Well, that's clearly what the Boston Globe wants to believe, but it's probably quite a bit more complicated.

45 posted on 10/23/2016 6:13:21 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Reily

That was their mistake to make. It’s amazing how many people don’t appreciate how good they have it, until it is gone.


46 posted on 10/23/2016 6:13:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: virgil

My uncle was MacArthur’s cook.


47 posted on 10/23/2016 6:15:00 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: ASA Vet

Ome of my favorite images from the Army Historical Series. The debut of the M1911 knocking down drugged up muslims.


48 posted on 10/23/2016 6:15:31 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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To: mrsmith

That is it exactly.
The US is an uncertain ally, so time for making deals with someone else, insurance.


49 posted on 10/23/2016 6:22:19 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Well, see, the US failed to keep those Japs from showing up in the first place.
The US was a “bad ally” in 1941, it had an obligation to protect the place, including that baby, and it failed.


50 posted on 10/23/2016 6:24:47 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: SeekAndFind

The Boston Globe is always very attentive when it’s someone ranting against the U. S.

A word to the Globe, think you’d get away with what you have been doing in other nations?


51 posted on 10/23/2016 6:26:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (17 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: Will88

Its PR.
Duterte needs a propaganda campaign to justify what he has done.

And it is complicated. Filipino attitudes are complicated and in some ways they dont make sense from a US point of view.

Read Karnow, “In Our Image”


52 posted on 10/23/2016 6:27:19 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Reily

1946


53 posted on 10/23/2016 6:28:12 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: DoodleDawg

The point is you arent going to help him take them back.
Therefore you are no use to him.
So he has to deal with the bully as best he can.


54 posted on 10/23/2016 6:30:05 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Red Dog #1

Thats correct, this is just PR to justify an unpopular policy.


55 posted on 10/23/2016 6:31:03 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: SeekAndFind

If Hitlery gets on I want the US to lose its global reach and influence. If we have a Hitlery dictatorship, Christians and conservatives will be enemy #1; we will be 1930s Jews.
We will need a place to escape or we will need support from a foreign power to aid in secession efforts.
If the US is to become a full on tyranny, I pray that it is a weak power in a multipolar world.
I’m not going to be a fool shouting USA!, USA! in a Hitlery dictatorship.


56 posted on 10/23/2016 6:31:13 PM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another fight against globalism is what I see here. The people of the Philippines, like those of the usa, sense that the best interests of the people are not is what in the minds of the American government NOR the Phillipine govt.


57 posted on 10/23/2016 6:33:53 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: SeekAndFind

Duterte is almost surely a Communist. Expect much shock from us officials who didn’t know, a la Castro.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/147375/trillanes-calls-duterte-a-communist


58 posted on 10/23/2016 6:34:10 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: buwaya

Whoops ok

I should have looked it up instead of shooting from the hip!

:)


59 posted on 10/23/2016 6:35:02 PM PDT by Reily
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To: sunrise_sunset

The converse sin is starting a war with the Japs, as Roosevelt did with sanctions(against strong objections from the Phil gov of the day), and then failing to protect the Phil from the inevitable result.

And THAT spin is not usual in the Phil, but its the truth.
The Filipinos were way less conscious or bitter about it than the American “battling bastards of Bataan” btw.


60 posted on 10/23/2016 6:35:10 PM PDT by buwaya
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