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Trump promises to sue accusers after election
The Washington Examiner ^ | October 22, 2016 | Robert King

Posted on 10/22/2016 9:41:20 AM PDT by kevcol

Donald Trump promised to sue every single woman who accused him of sexual misconduct after the election is over, and blamed the media for using the allegations to attack his campaign.

"Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign, total fabrication. The events never happened, never," he said during a rally in Gettysburg, Pa., on Saturday.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016elections; allred; dnc; fakeaccusers; gloriaallred; lawsuit; msm; trump
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To: lilypad
Well, just "publishing stuff" doesn't make defamation. Truth is an absolute defense, for example.

As for the accusers, if they know the accusation is false (and they are in a position to know that), then they are liable. In order for NYT to be liable, the jury has to find that NYT published with reckless disregard for the truth. In response to the Trump demand letter, NYT said that it checked the stories, therefore wasn't reckless. The women don't have that line of defense.

When there is a fact question (did he grope or not), the question goes to the jury. Evidence is presented on both sides, and the jury decides which is more believable - the standard of proof in a civil trial is "preponderance of the evidence," or "which story is more likely true." The "proved beyond a reasonable doubt" standard is for criminal trials.

Assuming Trump is telling the truth when he says the women are lying, he has a good case.

From an election strategy standpoint, nothing Trump does will take the accusations off the front page. The press has decided that decades-old allegations of Trump groping is more important than the issues. If he doesn't deny the accusation, then he is a masher, and if he does deny them, the denial becomes the news.

Totally driven by the press. The press sets its own reporting priorities.

121 posted on 10/22/2016 12:36:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim 0216

He will blow through their collective entire net worth on day 2 of the lawsuit. If Gloria wants to put up a few hundred thousand each to defend these lying hoes, I’ll be surprised.


122 posted on 10/22/2016 12:36:47 PM PDT by anton
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To: SandyInSeattle
I flipped to another news channel and that’s what they’re focusing on.

That's what all the MSM channels are focusing on, including Fox.

123 posted on 10/22/2016 12:38:02 PM PDT by CedarDave (Democrats, socialists, progressives all hooked on OPM - Other Peoples Money.)
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To: Gideon7

The left wing press is going to go bonkers over what Trump said !!


124 posted on 10/22/2016 12:39:11 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Jim 0216
-- How is publishing something (other than parody) that one knows is false, or publishing with reckless disregard for the truthfulness of the publication, not ill will? --

The distinction is that the question of whether the publisher harbors ill will is never directly addressed. A publisher that likes the defamed person doesn't get off because they like them.

-- The very definition of malice, in defamation law as well as elsewhere, is ill will, including reckless disregard. --

The question of ill will does not appear in NYT v. Sullivan. The definition of "actual malice" in that case is knowing the statement is false, or having reckless disregard for the truthfulness of the statement. Now, one might say that reckless disregard can ONLY occur in combination with or motivated by ill will.

Interestingly, NYT's preliminary defense, in its answer to Trump's lawyer's demand letter, was that the accusations do not harm Trump's reputation.

125 posted on 10/22/2016 12:41:24 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ryderann
No doubt Allred has some sort of professional insurance.

She might,But would it cover a $100 million judgment against her?

126 posted on 10/22/2016 12:50:03 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Jim 0216

“He’s not going to “sue his accusers” because he’s a public figure UNLESS he can show that deliberate lies were published with MALICE, then he has a case.”

The intent was to destroy Trump and install a corrupt evil hellbitch as POTUS! That is about as malicious as can be!


127 posted on 10/22/2016 12:54:16 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Gideon7
CBS is saying this is an attempt to intimidate and scare his victims into staying silent.

The accusers have no reason to be intimidated or scared into staying silent unless they are lying.

128 posted on 10/22/2016 12:54:34 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: oldvirginian
“Seeing her “go home in a barrel,” is a gruesome thought.”

I would love to see her reduced to living in a BOX !!

129 posted on 10/22/2016 12:55:52 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: kevcol

I hope they point their fingers back at Hillary and admit she put them up to it. The Donald needs to go after all $250M the Clinton Crime Family has corruptly accumulated during the last 20+ years.


130 posted on 10/22/2016 1:02:04 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: oldvirginian

“Now I’m going to have nightmares about that this weekend.”

I am truly sorry! There’s a long list of RAT Women that give me chills. Some of them are even moderately attractive until they open their mouths. Kirsten Powers, Nomiki Konst, & Jessica Tarlov come to mind. Like fingernails on a blackboard all.


131 posted on 10/22/2016 1:24:13 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: anton

Well I loathe and despise the use of lawsuits without merit to destroy people and their means. Even lawsuits with merit should be to right wrongs done by the defendant.

Don’t forget, the Left loves to use lawsuits, often without merit, to silence and destroy their enemies (us). Let’s be careful not to cheer our side along by applauding the same despicable tactics the bad guys use.

Having said that, I don’t think Trump’s suits are without merit and I hope he is trying to right wrongs, not destroy people.


132 posted on 10/22/2016 1:29:18 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Cboldt

Fine points about the intent and recklessness of malice. Suffice to say, in a defamation suit, the malice of recklessness or intent is enough. The acts is one of ill will which is sufficient, even if the thought isn’t.


133 posted on 10/22/2016 1:33:58 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Frank_2001

If intent is proven, then Trump has proven malice and wins.


134 posted on 10/22/2016 1:34:51 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: sakic

This is what I posted upthread to an earlier such reply to me, and it’s still relevant;
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What do you mean by that? That Trump would be scared of the questions?

LOL!

Donald’s not scared of anything, but he is determined, damned determined, that he is going to end this cycle of corruption in our election process.


135 posted on 10/22/2016 1:38:13 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Jim 0216
-- Fine points about the intent and recklessness of malice. --

Another way to view my point is that defamation doesn't include an intent element. Read the case, NYT v. Sullivan. In defamation, the definition of "actual malice" is knowing the statement is false, or repeating it with reckless disregard for the truthfulness. The act does not need to involve ill will.

136 posted on 10/22/2016 1:40:21 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: painter

We can sure hope it wouldn’t.


137 posted on 10/22/2016 2:06:59 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: Gideon7

The MSM is in the tank for Hillary. They will seize on anything to slam Trump. If it wasn’t this, it would be something else.


138 posted on 10/22/2016 2:19:09 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kevcol; flaglady47; Maine Mariner; HarleyLady27; Jane Long; RitaOK; WENDLE
If he can tie any one of these babes in with the DNC or any of their paid political operatives he indeed can prove malice on political grounds.

If he is unable in some way to prove malice, his crack lawyers wouldn't have allowed him to make the threat in the first place....(unless it's just a strategery move to shut all the bimbos up, including new "victims", between now and election).

I hope it's both!

Leni

139 posted on 10/22/2016 2:19:09 PM PDT by MinuteGal (GO, TRUMP !!!..........GO, PENCE !!!)
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ping


140 posted on 10/22/2016 2:24:20 PM PDT by ColdOne ((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Because you'd be in jail! She is a nasty woman! Well she is.)
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