Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

The airline incident was from a person known to be shady. And the phone in question was of a replacement phone with the ‘design flaw’ addressed.

Excuse me? Where is your proof of that? The incident was well documented including an investigation by Southwest Airlines and the NTSB and the FAA. There are photographs of the phone on the floor of the aircraft:

and there was damage done to the carpet where the phone was thrown when it started burning before being kicked out on the aisle of the aircraft (above photo) on the aircraft.

According to Green, he “powered down the phone” when he entered the plane and placed it in his pocket, which is when it began to smoke. He dropped it onto the floor of the plane and saw a “thick grey-green angry smoke” emanating from the device. The phone later burned through the carpet and subfloor of the plane, which a friend of Green’s observed when he returned to retrieve some personal items, The Verge added.

The friend kicked it away from the damaged area and took a photo of the too-hot-to-touch phone in the aisle of the plane (above photo).

This was NOT just a claim by an individual. I've seen the video recordings of the news interviews of the individual, the airline cabin attendants, and passengers around him, who witnessed the incident and who were evacuated from the plane! This happened. There was NOTHING "shady" about this family man who was on board with a friend, as I recall.

The phone had just been powered down per instructions of the cabin attendants when it started smoking! There have been at least SEVEN MORE SUCH INCIDENTS with replaced Samsung Galaxy Note 7s since this one. That is why Samsung stopped replacing the recalled ones with the so-called safe models and is now dropping the entire model! SHEESH!

Now you can keep dancing but you don't do it very well, toeing the line of Samsung's propaganda.

Read the links but of course, you won’t because to you, any company that turns out a better product than your precious queer company must be a LIAR!

Go take a bath. You stink up this joint.

You are a piece of work, aren't you?

Hostage specifically said: "Two weeks back Samsung issued a report that of the millions of Note 7s that were shipped, only 26 had been reported to overheat or explode and of those 26, the claims turned out to be fake or suspicious."

Swordmaker: I call you a liar based on your claim there were only a total of 26 Samsung Galaxy "Note 7s that ever overheated or exploded", and then I provided a link to the US Government's Consumer Product Safety Commission Website on the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 recall, citing these data, as of September 15, 2016:

"Incidents/Injuries:
Samsung has received 92 reports of the batteries overheating in the U.S., including 26 reports of burns and 55 reports of property damage, including fires in cars and a garage."

In addition, I provided a link to a legitimate news website, EndGadget, with the headline of "Over 70 Galaxy Note 7 phones have overheated in the US alone".

Both of these PROVE, without a doubt, that your claim there were only 26 overheating Note 7s and fires relating to them, and further that they were all fake, are lies.

I read your links. . . all three of them. The first came from when Samsung was still trying to denigrate the reports of their Note 7 even overheating at all, but the next day they announced their own in-house managed recall, not involving the government agencies, trying to avoid official involvement. Five days later, the US CPSC involved itself and made the recalls mandatory in the US due to the danger to the public. The other two were self-serving claims from Samsung that they had found that some of the claims were fraudulent, offering no proof of that, and that other claims had been withdrawn, implying that those also were suspicious. . . and one claiming that one injury from an exploding phone was not a Note 7 but rather from a Core 7 instead, so should not be counted as part of the problem. None of these addresses your claim that there were only 26 total Note 7 overheating or fires. None dispels the lie when your numbers don't even approach the actual world wide numbers of over 200 or more in just the first three of weeks on the market or so.

Incidentally, I could provide a lot more such links from the news media around the world on Samsung Note 7s catching fire, overheating, injuring people and property, and the numbers of incidents in each market where they were sold. I think I have proved the case you are not telling the truth with what I have presented to not bother presenting more.

Further, any claims that Samsung makes trying to minimize the damage are suspect, as they are trying to limit their financial downside in lawsuits.

As to your insult to me, YOU are the one stinking up this thread with your lies, trying to defend the indefensible! Even Samsung has raised the white flag and has cancelled the Galaxy Note 7 as a FAILED PRODUCT due to unresolvable design flaws. . . and sever adverse publicity that cannot, at this time, no matter what they do, be over come. Your own words condemn you as the liar, ignoring truth, cherry picking facturds to distort the facts that are as plain as day, and insulting anyone who dares to bring the facts to the discussion.

You've been told by MrsEmmaPeel to research things before you spew your nonsense. . . here's what you'd find before you make your claims on the Samsung Top Loading Washing Machines and the US Consumer Product Safety Commission. . . which I already knew because I DO my research before I post, as you can see by the factual information that I do post.

Statement from CPSC Regarding Top Loading Washing Machines Made By Samsung
September 28, 2016
The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is actively and cooperatively working with Samsung to address safety issues related to certain top-load washing machines made between March 2011 and April 2016. CPSC is advising consumers to only use the delicate cycle when washing bedding, water-resistant and bulky items. The lower spin speed in the delicate cycle lessens the risk of impact injuries or property damage due to the washing machine becoming dislodged.
CPSC and Samsung are working on a remedy for affected consumers that will help ensure that there are no further incidents. We will provide updated information to the public as soon as possible. Consumers can contact Samsung for more information. Consumers should report any incidents to CPSC via our website www.SaferProducts.gov.

The implication is in the story itself. I provided the links above. Do your own homework! Look it up!

You presented photos without links and you were asked to provide them. Provide them or go away!

Oh, according to you, because the incident happened, and it involved a Samsung phone, the guy it happened to has to be "shady"??!!

Your sole proof is that the story exists? All I can say is "WOW, that's really warped, delusional logic!" Sounds like Liberal Democrat logic to me.

You asserted that Samsung top loading washing machines couldn't possibly "explode" so I provided you with the definition of "explode" and exploded that mis-information you were promulgating.

I then proved they could explode by posting four photos of four different Samsung top loading washing machines that had indeed exploded. I don't need to provide you with links. The proof is they exploded. Pictures are worth a thousand words. They are available on Google. . . so google them. Do your own research. Now you claim that perhaps someone blew them up deliberately? You live in a delusional world of conspiracy. Don't you think the fire departments who were called out on these events would be able to determine that?

I DID deign to provide you with the statement and link the CPSC's statement in reference to what they are doing about this issue, which you claim doesn't exist. They disagree with you. There are LOTS of news stories which you claim are exaggerated. Only in your delusional world. Take a look at the Amazon reviews for Samsung Top Loading Washing Machines. Hundreds of ONE STAR REVIEWS!

You literally cannot stand anyone factually countering your load of BS, can you?

One other "note" about the "heat" in this thread... (did you like that, two bad puns in one! Baby I'm on fire today! ok, enough...)

Seriously. Let's take a step back. The Samsung Note 7 issue is done. The discontinuation of the line will hopefully put this sad episode to rest for Samsung. They have two challenges in front of them. One is engineering. If/when the Galaxy Note 8 comes out it had better have a remarkable battery life and charging cycle and the highest quality build for a Samsung mobile device yet. The second is marketing: bringing people back to the fold to trust their engineering and production. Interesting thought: picture tens of thousands of recalled note 7s, still in boxes...being destroyed? Recycled? Batteries removed and repurposed? Wonder what's to become of them...

Full disclosure, yes I'm solidly in the Android camp. Yes I like Samsung devices. In fact, this past weekend I finally traded in my Galaxy S5 for the 7 (just the 7, not the "edge" or "active" variants). First impressions are it is a great phone and mobile device for non-phone stuff.

Now, the engineer in me wonders if the problems with the battery in the note 7 pertain to the size of the battery and the current available through usb-c. This whole episode is a cautionary tale for design engineers literally across the globe as consumers look for higher capacities, faster charging, etc. (hmm, wonder how Tesla deals with this on a much larger scale?)

Now, as for the "exploding Samsung washing machine" issue that is starting to gain traction in the news. This is a potentially misleading line of posts. There are some posts with pictures of burned washing machines - this is not the same thing, not the same issue. If you actually go read the consumer reports site and a few others the "exploding" issue is purely mechanical, has nothing to do with fires. The "explosion" comes from the built-up kinetic energy in the washer drum during fast spin cycles with heavy loads. This is a genuine problem. The sensors and software in the machine should halt the cycle if there is an out of balance problem. Remember I said I'm an engineer? Well...a bit of a handyman too. Yes, I have fixed/repaired my own washers (several brands over the years). If you know what you're doing (ie. can do so safely) it is entertaining and educational to run a washer with not just the lid but the whole top of the machine raised. Yes you have to bypass a safety system or two. Yes it is more dangerous than it sounds. It is eye opening to see just how fast those things operate. That is some serious weight and rotational inertia built up in that system.

So Samsung will need to address the issue with their sensors/software not shutting down an out of balance system fast enough. This is not the same as catching fire. Apparently there have been some fires associated with the machines, but these are not part of the CPS issue right now. Appliance fires are more common than you probably realize. You can search for appliance fires and find virtually every appliance type ever made from any/all manufacturers have had issues. Clothes dryers are particularly problematic. Apparently Whirlpool had some significant issues a while back. However, because of the note 7 debacle (sorry Samsung, the name fits) Samsung is in the news and under scrutiny. So the washing machine balance issue gets more attention than it probably deserves. Other people look up sensational fire pictures and the (social) media feeding frenzy continues.

So, talking about the note 7 is kind of a dead issue now. Hopefully Samsung learns from it. The washing machine thing looks to be a fairly routine problem that is on the verge of being distorted and blown out of proportion. (sorry, one last pun for the morning) I'm going to tuck my new S7 in my pocket, grab an energy drink, and head to work...

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