Posted on 10/08/2016 10:49:52 AM PDT by Ohioan
But let me confess to a weakness. My every instinct is to revile the sanctimonious twit--and how else can one describe those posturing pseudo intellectual twits, who today pretend that remarks Donald Trump made 11 or more years ago--never intended for publication--only indulging a sexual fantasy--were in any sense even 1/1000 as important as the life or death issues of the American Republic in 2016!
Anyone who is too prissy to put America ahead of this posturing sanctimony, deserves the contempt of all rational men & women! Who here, or anywhere in American political discourse--and in an era where every form of vulgarity (but with the approved slang rather than the unapproved slang) is used on TV and radio to market all sorts of health & hygiene products;--who in such an era will dare insult our intelligence by suggesting that their feigned sanctimonious horror can ever out weigh the question of who goes on the Supreme Court; or the question of how we deal with mass migrations by people who do not share our values into our lands; or the question of our military needs; or the question of whether we back or target those in law enforcement, etc. All matters in the crucible of here and no, and absolutely vital as public questions, essential for public attention!
How dare these twits endanger an American future with their ludicrous posturing! Will anyone suggest that their behavior is actually defensible?
I know what you mean. One of my wife’s “religious Christian” friends “can’t vote” for Trump, but she “couldn’t vote” for Romney either cuz he was a Mormon.
As disgusting as Minion is/was, even he would have been preferable to Obama.
This is what we’re up against. People whose petty, short-sighted morality endanger the US.
I mean, really, can anyone suggest that indulging in a verbal sex fantasy in a TV studio--a fantasy never intended to offend anyone--is as important as naming Scalia's replacement; or stopping the murder of brave cops; or controlling our borders, etc., etc.?
I want to keep focused on the issues; but somebody with the ability to garner major media attention, needs to call these twits out. Properly hammered on this, they will want to crawl under a rock!
This just came to me: these “concerned” people are the same ones lobbying Ike to remove Patton for slapping soldiers.
Against the code of military conduct? Of course. Undesirable in a great officer. Sure.
Does it matter a whit? HELL NO.
Beat Hitler, then you can revisit violations of the code of conduct.
Well said.
Reduced to the actual dynamics of Trump's 2005 comments, it was not an advocacy of any disrespect; it was a sexual fantasy--the type that at least 99% of normal men sometimes experience, arising without any for thought in their minds. According to some studies, I believe that an almost equivalent percentage of women experience reciprocal fantasies. One Being caught on tape, foolishly verbalizing such a moment, eleven years ago, hardly justifies any one else, claiming even moderate conservative principles' demanding as atonement that we forfeit our heritage to prove the demanding dears' holiness.
I do not recommend our candidate continuing to talk about the incident--probably a mistake;--but the rest of us need to perfect a rational and proportionate response to it, when anyone brings the subject up. This is not something we need to panic over, if we handle it correctly.
I suspect that we all need to ready ourselves to turn what others might consider awkward moments among our personal acquaintances, into opportunities to win people over.
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2. Without wasting effort by trying to name the most contemptible Trump detractor--or diverting attention from the issues crucial to the very survival of America--we need to put into juxtaposition, the insane narrative of the prissy poseurs, as a class, with the issues that are crucial to any American future. Can anyone, that is any rational person, suggest that Donald Trump's mistake in letting a recounting of a sexual fantasy, eleven years ago, be recorded, is 1/100,000th as important as any of a half dozen issues, where he is for America & Hillary Clinton is not.
3. Again, not getting into wasting time, or building a specific barrier against any sanctimonious twit returning to the cause, as a reformed prodigal; we must organize discussions that compare priorities. The more that we focus on what is really important, the stupider & less principled the twits will sound--and the more certain their comeuppance on November 8th.
Damn the pseudo intellectual poseurs--for that is what they truly are;--Damn the liars & Damn the lies. Trump to the White House!
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God Bless & sustain Donald Trump in this ordeal, which he has undertaken because he loves America! Let us redouble our efforts to the end that his vision, not that of the poseurs, hypocrites and liars, prevails.
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Imagine what would have been the reaction, if, when the original Horatio stepped on to the bridge to defend his civilization, there had been a msss media to stab him in the back? Donald Trump is all in for us. We dare not let the dishonest, pseudo intellectual poseurs of the mass media destroy our brave warrior risking his all for us and an American Future!
If you find one willing to talk about the election, ask them, in a friendly manner, why they do not plan to vote for Donald Trump. Listen politely, because what they say may suggest many possible ways to reach them. Do not get angry. Do not insult them, however foolish their reasons. Then, briefly, very politely, explain why you do not accept those reasons--again briefly.
After the foregoing, try to get them to listen as you pivot to put in juxtaposition their argument, with one of the arguments essential to the continuity of our heritage and principles; one most likely to appeal to the particular individual.
If you can, make the argument come down to a which is more important, more crucial to the future--such as between punishing Donald Trump for insulting Megan Kelly after she took a cheap shot at him (for this purpose leaving that "cheap shot" out of your comments) or preserving American independence of action despite the globalist interests that seek to tie us down; or preserving America's right to control who comes here; or getting an overreaching Federal Bureaucracy out of local education; or supporting local Police doing their job, rather than putting a target on their backs, etc., etc..
Of course, in the case of the alternatives on which you focus, do not come on so strong that you antagonize. Practice adhering to the facts and leaving the strong adjectives to others.
We all need to get over the impulse to tell people off--the people who are not in active politics will likely make stupid comments, the art of persuasion will not be served by one of us coming down on them like a stern school master.
The stakes are too high for us to give up on those we may yet reach. The goal must be a landslide victory, which will remind those in Congress on which side their bread may be buttered in the immediate future.
Another suggestion
Aside from Sean turn off Fox News
Use Breitbart or Drudge or Green Frog style links
It’s us against everyone but we can do it
It will all be about turnout
You make a good point about turnout. There will be some unusual patterns this year, given the reactions to the gutter tactics of the Clinton supporters in the media. Hopefully, it has gotten too bad for even some on the Left; but we cannot count on them not voting in large numbers—especially in neighborhoods where they vote the dead by proxy.
Bump the thread. Will compose a rough draft of a further campaign argument. If I like the rough draft, I may post it here, a little later, even before revising it over the weekend.
How can any American support a woman, running for President, who openly refuses to respect the specific purpose of the Constitution, she has repeatedly sworn to preserve:
The Preamble to the Constitution states that purpose:
We the people of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Our posterity, of course, are our lineal descendants. The stated purpose is 100% consistent with Donald Trump's call to put America First. It is 100% consistent with the Fifth Commandment, and traditional Western values, in general. Mrs. Clinton's call for open borders, and the failure to properly vet immigrants from lands with very different value systems, is 100% inconsistent with the Constitution.
How can any American refuse to vote for Donald Trump, who not only understands what the Constitution requires. He also strenuously opposes Mrs. Clinton! Trump is willing to risk a lifetime of success--his whole career & fortune--to take on a corrupt media, that tries in every unfair, intellectually dishonest way, to cover up Mrs. Clinton's crimes and repeated acts of betrayal, in order to stand for us, our Constitution and our obvious interests, on a host of vital issues.
These include:
1. Trump supports and has been endorsed by the border guards. Mrs. Clinton has shown only disdain for those trying to keep America safe from a flood of unauthorized invaders.
2. Trump supports the rights of Americans to efficiently arm themselves, both for their own protection and for the protection of America! Mrs. Clinton has repeatedly sought means to disarm American families.
3. Trump has supported the local Police in the violent confrontations with neighborhood thugs, while Mrs. Clinton & Obama have allied themselves with virulently anti Police groups--some funded by George Soros--who seem determined to deny the law abiding people in the involved neighborhoods, the necessary Police protection, to make those neighborhoods safe.
4. Trump understands that making poor neighborhoods much safer, is the key to increasing constructive activity in such neighborhoods--or any neighborhood;--the key to people being able to start local businesses, with some hope of success; the key to better job opportunities, better credit ratings, etc. Mrs. Clinton seems more intent on encouraging and approving those Soros funded groups.
5. Donald Trump supports American energy production in all forms; wants to let the coal miners get back to work; to take advantage of improved technology that allows a cleaner use of coal. Mrs. Clinton has insulted to coal miners, by refusing to help them get back to work, while she patronizes them, offering them a new dependence on even more Government meddling.
6. To return to the Constitution--the solemn compact or contract that authorizes us to even have a Federal Government;--the charter, that once--when truly honored--made us the envy of the earth:
Donald Trump has pledged to appoint only those who honor the clear intent of that compact, to the Federal Judiciary. Mrs. Clinton has promised to only appoint Judges who agree with her ghoulish view of Feminist issues, such as the idea that it is acceptable for a woman on mere whim to have an otherwise healthy baby, already half out of her body, killed in cold blood, in something euphemistically labeled a "partial birth abortion."
7. Donald Trump has addressed great rallies every day, discussing these and other vital issues; such as the damage to American workers & communities, resulting from trade deals, and immigration policies, that do not protect our rooted population. Mrs. Clinton has generally avoided any in depth discussion of issues; preferring, instead, an incessant attack on Donald Trump's personality; his tone; his supporters;--in each case always misrepresenting the same by a combination of lies, cherry picking misleading data, gross exaggerations, and citations of spurious media smears, engineered by a slavish press, which also covers up her actual crimes, in their blind but determined support.
Under such circumstances: How can any American vote for Mrs. Clinton? How can any American refuse to vote for Donald Trump?
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